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Old 02-26-2011, 06:38 AM   #1
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“Revenue is down, costs are up, and you can't make any money,” said R. Jerol Kivett, the owner of Kivett's Inc., a company that manufactures pews and other church furniture in Clinton, N.C. “You're just trying to meet payroll and keep people working, hoping the economy will turn. But it just seems like setback after setback after setback.”

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Anything close to that would push millions more households to the point where they owe more on their houses than the houses are worth, generating a lot of sour moods — which can depress consumer spending — more foreclosures and potential job losses.[/B]

Oil prices pose latest threat to US economy
you should just be proud that we have a president and first lady that never let anything get in the way of their lavish parties and good times

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WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House reverberated like a long-ago basement sound studio in Detroit on Thursday as the likes of John Legend, Seal, Jamie Foxx, Nick Jonas and Sheryl Crowe channeled their inner Motown before Michelle and Barack Obama(our king and queen). Musical pioneers Smokey Robinson and Stevie Wonder joined in for the celebration of all things Motown

remember..."shared sacrafice"


btw: yet another downward revision after much trumpeting and fanfare

February 25, 2011
Fourth-quarter GDP revised down
Government says GDP increased at annual rate of 2.8 percent Home prices at post-bust lows in most big cities

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The Commerce Department reported Friday that economic growth increased at an annual rate of 2.8 percent in the final quarter of last year. That was down from the initial estimate of 3.2 percent.

One of the crucial questions is whether consumers can spend enough this year to help offset negative forces in the economy notably struggling state and local governments and a wobbly housing market that has depressed homes values.

Rising energy prices also pose a danger. If oil prices were to rise to $150 or more a barrel and then stay there for months, another recession is possible, economists said. Gasoline prices would near $5 a gallon. Consumers and businesses would spend much less, and some employers might slash jobs.(no way...really????)



I'd like to see the class envy/warfare game turned right around on these two in 2012...the RNC should run commercials with clips of Americans struggling, losing their homes and jobs, soaring utility and food prices, the various unrest here and abroad and alternate those with pics of the royal couple vacationing, stuffing their faces and enjoying lavish parties ad nauseam, jetting here and there separately in many cases at the taxpayers expense....then let them go out and claim to be the champions of the little people

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Old 02-27-2011, 08:57 AM   #2
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If the Arabs can get together and set the amount of oil they tap every day, why can't the Us shutdown the speculative market, why is there even a speculative market anyway? I mean once the oil is out of the ground, don't the big oil companies already purchase it from the arabs, I mean there is no middle man right?

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Old 02-27-2011, 01:15 PM   #3
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If the Arabs can get together and set the amount of oil they tap every day, why can't the Us shutdown the speculative market, why is there even a speculative market anyway? I mean once the oil is out of the ground, don't the big oil companies already purchase it from the arabs, I mean there is no middle man right?
The US can not effectively do anything against energy speculation currently because they lack effective means to regulate the market. The electronic trading of oil contracts are exempt from the CFTC's large trader reports which is the CFTC's main way of regulating the markets. This was done in 2000 at the request of Enron and other large energy traders. Despite Enron and all that has gone on since with Dodd-Frank the exemption remains on the books. In addition energy traders can trade on ICE in the UK where their trading is outside the scope of the CFTC.
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The US can not effectively do anything against energy speculation currently because they lack effective means to regulate the market. .
We can drill our own oil, and tell OPEC to take a hike...of course, it will take awhile for that to bear fruit..
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We can drill our own oil, and tell OPEC to take a hike...of course, it will take awhile for that to bear fruit..
Unless you have transparency in the markets they can be gamed by speculators no matter what the source of the oil is.
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We can drill our own oil, and tell OPEC to take a hike...of course, it will take awhile for that to bear fruit..
And we do not have an infite supply of domestic, economically useful oil.

Natural gas, we have a lot of however....

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