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[scottw]

Obama to the Egyptian Protesters..."we hear your voices"
Obama to the Tea Party Protesters..."bleep you"

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by scottw

Obama to the Egyptian Protesters..."we hear your voices"
Obama to the Tea Party Protesters..."bleep you"

What drives me crazy is the lack of the President's support for the people
in the recent uprising in Iran, where Ahmadinejad is close to
having nuclear weapons, supports terrorism against us, and
vows to destroy Israel.

Then when it comes to Egypt and Mubarak, our ally, a stable influence in the region, our President supports the people's uprising within a few days.
OK if it ends in a pro American democratic election, but a tragedy if the WB becomes a part of the government and has a say in the direction of the country.
Time will tell.

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

What drives me crazy is the lack of the President's support for the people
in the recent uprising in Iran, where Ahmadinejad is close to
having nuclear weapons, supports terrorism against us, and
vows to destroy Israel.

Then when it comes to Egypt and Mubarak, our ally, a stable influence in the region, our President supports the people's uprising within a few days.
OK if it ends in a pro American democratic election, but a tragedy if the WB becomes a part of the government and has a say in the direction of the country.
Time will tell.

This is a bit more complicated than rooting at a Pats game. There's a lot of US meddling in their affairs over the years and generally speaking not a lot of trust in the US.

I think Obama has done a good job of voicing support for the Democratic institutions and walking a very find line to not make the US look like flaming hypocrites. We won't know for a while the full story of what's been done behind the scenes, but first look says this could end up being a very positive change.

What's perhaps most important is that one of the largest Islamic nations has led a completely peaceful coup. The precedent this sets is...we'll...perhaps unprecedented.

-spence

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

This is a bit more complicated than rooting at a Pats game.

-spence

Thanks so much Spence, for breaking it down so even I can understand.

[scottw]

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What's perhaps most important is that one of the largest Islamic nations has led a completely peaceful coup. -spence[/QUOTE

right, almost noone died or was injured.....

A-jad and Chavez like democracy too and Obama, Carter etc. approve of those "democracies"

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

right, almost noone died or was injured....

This wasn't a violent protest...certainly there was some, especially with what looks to have been police instigation or the general break down of control leading to criminal activity, but this didn't appear to be driven by the thrust of the protesters.

Hell, I remember fires in the streets, people being beaten up, bottles thrown at police and getting tear gassed.

VEISHA at Iowa State 1994

-spence

[scottw]

By Tom Perry

CAIRO, Feb 9 (Reuters) - In Tahrir Square, the memory of young Egyptians killed in the revolt against President Hosni Mubarak has mobilised more opposition to his 30-year rule.

For those who saw fellow protesters die, some clubbed by men claiming loyalty to Mubarak, others shot by police, the toll of "martyrs of the revolution" has hardened their resolve.

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"All (four) were killed by gunshot, with one hit in the head," said Dr Mohammed Ismail, at a makeshift clinic in Abdulmenem Riad Square, next to Tahrir (Liberation) Square, taking the death toll over the past 24 hours to seven.

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"Most of the casualties came in in the last three hours, many with gunshot wounds," he told AFP early morning, putting the total wounded toll since Wednesday at more than 1,000 people.

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One in 10 people have some kind of visible injury, an AFP correspondent said, with volunteers distributing food and clothing to the exhausted protesters

[scottw]

from yesterday's NY Times


“In the process many have formed some unusual bonds that reflect the singularly nonideological character of the Egyptian youth revolt, which encompasses liberals, socialists and members of the Muslim Brotherhood.

‘I like the Brotherhood most, and they like me,’ said Sally Moore, a 32-year-old psychiatrist, a Coptic Christian and an avowed leftist and feminist of mixed Irish-Egyptian roots. “They always have a hidden agenda, we know, and you never know when power comes how they will behave. But they are very good with organizing, they are calling for a civil state just like everyone else, so let them have a political party just like everyone else’