let all of the tax cuts excpire

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

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In a letter to James Madison in 1785, for instance, Thomas Jefferson suggested that taxes could be used to reduce (why isn't this in quotes?) “the enormous inequality” [B]between rich and poor. He wrote that one way of [/B](why isn't this in quotes?) “silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise.” huge lib talking point...google it

Madison later spoke in favor of using laws to (why isn't this in quotes?) “reduce extreme wealth towards a state of mediocrity (meaning the middle) and raise extreme indigence towards a state of comfort.”

During the early days of the republic, the government relied mostly on tariffs to collect revenue, under the theory that since the rich bought most of the imports, they would pay most of the taxes.

“The rich alone use imported articles, and on these alone the whole taxes of the general government are levied,” Jefferson wrote in 1811. “The poor man, who uses nothing but what is made in his own farm or family, will pay nothing. (With) our revenues applied to canals, roads, schools, etc., the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings.

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As Jefferson also said, "To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father's has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association--the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

[likwid]

And then everyone got gubbermint handouts.
yay!

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

As Jefferson also said, "To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father's has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association--the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.

I'm not asserting that Jefferson was a socialist, simply, that this isn't as clear cut an issue as it may seem.

Also, you forgot to close your end quote.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

I'm not asserting that Jefferson was a socialist, simply, that this isn't as clear cut an issue as it may seem.

Also, you forgot to close your end quote.

-spence

who said you were asserting that Jefferson was a socialist?

here's how your author might have used the quote:

As Jefferson also frequently said, it would be sensible to use the power of government and creation of laws "To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father's has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill".

it's never clear cut is it?

[Fishpart]

“The rich alone use imported articles, and on these alone the whole taxes of the general government are levied,” Jefferson wrote in 1811. “The poor man, who uses nothing but what is made in his own farm or family, will pay nothing. (With) our revenues applied to canals, roads, schools, etc., the farmer will see his government supported, his children educated and the face of his country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being called on to spend a cent from his earnings."


It is apparent that our forefathers expected a certain amount of industry, with reference to a man living off what he makes himself and later on without being called on to a spend a cent from his earnings which implies a certain amount of personal responsibility to provide for yourself and your family.

[scottw]

"raise extreme indigence towards a state of comfort"

I wonder if the founders envisioned gimme girls in flannel pajama bottoms talking on the latest I Phones at TJ Maxx pushing government provided baby strollers full of kids with expensive sneakers born out of wedlock with government provided healthcare soon to be housed in government funded daycare...then pre- school...and eventually public school with government provided breakfast and lunch at a cost of somewhere between 15 and 25 grand a year and in many cases flunking out before reaching graduation to start the whole cycle again while mom, or by this time, grandma stays home in her government subsidized apartment with goverment subsidized utilities figuring out new ways to work the system with the help of "advocates" for the poor...

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by scottw

"raise extreme indigence towards a state of comfort"

I wonder if the founders envisioned gimme girls in flannel pajama bottoms talking on the latest I Phones at TJ Maxx pushing government provided baby strollers full of kids with expensive sneakers born out of wedlock with government provided healthcare soon to be housed in government funded daycare...then pre- school...and eventually public school with government provided breakfast and lunch at a cost of somewhere between 15 and 25 grand a year and in many cases flunking out before reaching graduation to start he whole cycle again while mom, or by this time, grandma stays home in her government subsidized apartment with goverment subsidized utilities figuring out new ways to work the system with the help of "advocates" for the poor...

That's the way the voters grow!