The illegal immigrants thing.

[RIROCKHOUND]

To me, as one of the token liberals here on S-B...
1. Close the borders; period.
2. Commit a felony as an undocumented/illegal. back home you go.
3. What to do with the other 12? Million, most of whom have been here for a while. Do you round them up at some huge cost? Or do we open some door for them to gain legal citizenship? Regardless, we can't deal with #3 and till #1 is dealt with....

[scottw]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

To me, as one of the token liberals here on S-B...
1. Close the borders; period.

2. Commit a felony as an undocumented/illegal. that's funny

3. What to do with the other 12? Million, most of whom have been here for a while. Do you round them up at some huge cost? Or do we open some door for them to gain legal citizenship? Regardless, we can't deal with #3 and till #1 is dealt with....

I think Arizona proved that if you remove the magnets that keep them here they will go elsewhere

[Raven]

you ever seen a pot seed burn?

especially if it's mistakingly rolled in the end of a Joint...

well for those that haven't, it burns like a mini torch
or one of those super deep thermal vents in the ocean
it spews gas for a long time is my point....

it is the PERFECT fuel
...and that seed also grows on HEMP plants too

so get the whole drug aspect out of your head

if we harnessed the mexican growers and let them grow
our fuel for bio diesel it would change everything

problem is.... the politicians are not running this country

[Saltheart]

I'm having a haed time finding out if the illegal entry itself is a feloney. It certainly is a federal Crime and best as I can tell , may be a felony if you use false papers or give false info or several other things you might do to avoid detection.

Anyway , isn't the initial federal Crime of illegal entry enough to deport them? Why do they have to commit another serious crime before we are willing to send them home?

I don't understand the cost argument. It seems to me that if the process of sending them home when caught was streamlined , it would be a small cost compared to the potential costs that add up over their years here.

Nobody addressing the fact that they are commiting a crime to get in line ahead of the other honest people who do it right? I don't see how anyone can defend the idea that committing the crime of illegal entry warrants them getting preferencial treat ahead of those who do it right and apply and wait their turn.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Saltheart

I'm having a haed time finding out if the illegal entry itself is a feloney. It certainly is a federal Crime and best as I can tell , may be a felony if you use false papers or give false info or several other things you might do to avoid detection.

Anyway , isn't the initial federal Crime of illegal entry enough to deport them? Why do they have to commit another serious crime before we are willing to send them home?

I don't understand the cost argument. It seems to me that if the process of sending them home when caught was streamlined , it would be a small cost compared to the potential costs that add up over their years here.

Nobody addressing the fact that they are commiting a crime to get in line ahead of the other honest people who do it right? I don't see how anyone can defend the idea that committing the crime of illegal entry warrants them getting preferencial treat ahead of those who do it right and apply and wait their turn.

agree, agree and agree.
So a state is unhappy with the Fed enforcement, passes its own law to enforce. And what happens? Towns and other instiutions,across the country, like Cambridge MA, boycott products/services from the state. The Federal govt sues the state for passing the law!
Goes what party passed the law, guess what party is suing and boycotting them?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

To me, as one of the token liberals here on S-B...
1. Close the borders; period.
2. Commit a felony as an undocumented/illegal. back home you go.
3. What to do with the other 12? Million, most of whom have been here for a while. Do you round them up at some huge cost? Or do we open some door for them to gain legal citizenship? Regardless, we can't deal with #3 and till #1 is dealt with....

I agree. And you recieve NO entitlements untill you are a citizen.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by buckman

I agree. And you recieve NO entitlements untill you are a citizen.

meanie...what about the children????