Good bye America

[RIJIMMY]

Spence,

Extremist muslims have made a well publicized appeal to kill Americans. They have tried many times - how many reports and convictions of failed terror reports have we seen the last 6 years. We just sentenced a nut to prison for trying to kill Americans in Time Square. On 9/11, they were successful. Extremists dont carry a flag, dont wear a uniform. We cant identify them, except for one factor. They're middle eastern and muslims. So its just plain common sense for Americans to show some trepidation or reserve when viewing people that fit that description. If the black panthers made similar threats and delivered on them, common sense would dictate that most people would be cautious around black men. Its common sense.
While we think this is "new" as you say Islamaphobia is rampant, let me challenge you. Last weekend was watching a classic movie from my youth with my kids. Back to the Future. Anyone remember who pulled up in the VW van and shot Doc? Anyone remember why?
Its was the Libyians, dressed in islamic garb and shooting AK-47s, why? Doc was supposed to deliver plutonium to build a nuclear bomb! Over 25 yrs ago Spence and it was common place to see Islamists as a threat. No one watched that movie and said" Libyians as terrorists? Build a Nuclear Bomb? But Islam is a religion of peace! Thats Crazy!"
Couple that with the last 9 years, and if you dont get it, I cant help you.

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Extremist muslims have made a well publicized appeal to kill Americans.

And yet I think extremist Muslims have killed far more non-American Muslims than Americans.

They have tried many times - how many reports and convictions of failed terror reports have we seen the last 6 years.

Not very many if the problem is really Islam. I think there have been a few hundred and many of these are somewhat lower on the threat scale. Out of a billion Muslims worldwide that doesn't make for a lot of terrorists.

We just sentenced a nut to prison for trying to kill Americans in Time Square.

Don't forget that he was also an American citizen, business person and wore more Kenneth Cole than Islamic dress.

On 9/11, they were successful. Extremists dont carry a flag, dont wear a uniform. We cant identify them, except for one factor. They're middle eastern and muslims.

Just like Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, Michael Fortier and Coleen LaRose?

You might want to take this comment back, it's pretty ugly.

So its just plain common sense for Americans to show some trepidation or reserve when viewing people that fit that description.

Common sense would really dictate that the trepidation be somewhat on parity with the actual threat. The chances of someone in Islamic dress on an airplane actually being a terrorist out to do you harm are probably as low (or lower) than the chances of you dying from an accident on the same plane.

If the black panthers made similar threats and delivered on them, common sense would dictate that most people would be cautious around black men.

What percentage of black men are Black Panthers? You're stereotyping again...might want to take this one back as well.

While we think this is "new" as you say Islamaphobia is rampant, let me challenge you. Last weekend was watching a classic movie from my youth with my kids. Back to the Future. Anyone remember who pulled up in the VW van and shot Doc? Anyone remember why?
Its was the Libyians, dressed in islamic garb and shooting AK-47s, why? Doc was supposed to deliver plutonium to build a nuclear bomb! Over 25 yrs ago Spence and it was common place to see Islamists as a threat. No one watched that movie and said" Libyians as terrorists? Build a Nuclear Bomb? But Islam is a religion of peace! Thats Crazy!"

The movie is from 1985, made during a period when the US was in a tense period with Libya, making them an ideal target. While a Muslim, I'd consider Gaddafi's identity to be more of a socialist or Arab nationalist and not really an Islamist at all. The fact that he sought reconciliation with the West might have been partially a survival instinct, but certainly isn't the behavior of someone driven by dogma.

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

And yet I think extremist Muslims have killed far more non-American Muslims than Americans.

Sure, then moderate muslims should have the common sense to understant our fear, no?

Not very many if the problem is really Islam. I think there have been a few hundred and many of these are somewhat lower on the threat scale. Out of a billion Muslims worldwide that doesn't make for a lot of terrorists.

It only takes one to kill me or my family, just one. Millions of people across this country will drink and drive tonight. Possibly none will die, however I wont do it.

Don't forget that he was also an American citizen, business person and wore more Kenneth Cole than Islamic dress.

I wont forget, all the more reason for my mistrust. Againt to my point they dont wear uniforms. But - there was ONE thing that would identify him, isnt there?

Just like Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, Michael Fortier and Coleen LaRose?

You might want to take this comment back, it's pretty ugly.

Of those mentioned above, which ones belonged to a cult, cult of tens of thousands that declared war on you and your family? Of those above, which ones danced in the streets when thousands of Americans died? Which one of those people beheaded innocents in cold blood? If you took a computer and loaded it with data on the last 50 yrs of air travel and had it calculate a risk factor for each religion, race or background. To which would it assign the highest, unbiased risk? Again Spence, common sense. Its your friend and may someday save your life. Im not advocating living in fear or any restrictions of muslims rights, but to say there is no grounds for fear or scrutiny based on that religion is plain stupid.


Common sense would really dictate that the trepidation be somewhat on parity with the actual threat. The chances of someone in Islamic dress on an airplane actually being a terrorist out to do you harm are probably as low (or lower) than the chances of you dying from an accident on the same plane.

I agree, Im petrified of flying and take pills when I do. That said, any cause of a airline crash is most likely beyond my control. However, I may have control if I, like the passengers of flight 83 did on 9/11 and passengers of board with the shoe bomber did, act to save my and others lifes. Im not saying we shouldnt allow muslims to fly, Im saying that the fear and uncomfort are rational and reasonable, And should be understood, not silenced.

What percentage of black men are Black Panthers? You're stereotyping again...might want to take this one back as well.

Hardly any, just like hardly any muslims are terrorists. However if the black panthers threatened to kill americans, I as most would, would be cautious and potentially nervous in the presence of black men. We have been born with survival instincts, your liberal PC may someday be your end. Most dog dont bite, however I dont stop and pet rotweillers. Common sense.

The movie is from 1985, made during a period when the US was in a tense period with Libya, making them an ideal target. While a Muslim, I'd consider Gaddafi's identity to be more of a socialist or Arab nationalist and not really an Islamist at all. The fact that he sought reconciliation with the West might have been partially a survival instinct, but certainly isn't the behavior of someone driven by dogma.

Not the point. Today was made in 2010, a period when muslim extremists have declared war and have killed thousands of americans, using jets as brutal weapons.


-spence

usually there is some division of opinion on topics, but Spence stands alone on this one. reminds of those wacky animal owners that believe they can hold hands with gorillas or keep tigers in their home.

[spence]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Sure, then moderate muslims should have the common sense to understant our fear, no?

You should turn this around and ask why you don't understand why much of the Islamic world doesn't trust the USA.

This issue isn't really about the fear, it's how you deal with it.

It only takes one to kill me or my family, just one. Millions of people across this country will drink and drive tonight. Possibly none will die, however I wont do it.

This analogy makes no sense.

I wont forget, all the more reason for my mistrust. Againt to my point they dont wear uniforms. But - there was ONE thing that would identify him, isnt there?

Jim, seriously. You're starting to sound like paranoia is taking over.

Of those mentioned above, which ones belonged to a cult, cult of tens of thousands that declared war on you and your family? Of those above, which ones danced in the streets when thousands of Americans died? Which one of those people beheaded innocents in cold blood? If you took a computer and loaded it with data on the last 50 yrs of air travel and had it calculate a risk factor for each religion, race or background. To which would it assign the highest, unbiased risk? Again Spence, common sense. Its your friend and may someday save your life. Im not advocating living in fear or any restrictions of muslims rights, but to say there is no grounds for fear or scrutiny based on that religion is plain stupid.

Common sense would balance the negative things done by a small minority of Muslims with the far larger weight of positive and peaceful actions by the vast majority of Muslims.

If you dwell just on the visceral imagery there's no chance you'll let common sense guide your actions. How many innocent people have Mexican drug gangs (Catholics right?) beheaded in just the last few years alone?

I agree, Im petrified of flying and take pills when I do. That said, any cause of a airline crash is most likely beyond my control. However, I may have control if I, like the passengers of flight 83 did on 9/11 and passengers of board with the shoe bomber did, act to save my and others lifes. Im not saying we shouldnt allow muslims to fly, Im saying that the fear and uncomfort are rational and reasonable, And should be understood, not silenced.

In stark contrast you as an individual seem to do little to understand your fear and a lot to justify them.

The violent minority has a challenge in that to be effective they often have to conceal their behavior. There are traits that identify them.

Hardly any, just like hardly any muslims are terrorists. However if the black panthers threatened to kill americans, I as most would, would be cautious and potentially nervous in the presence of black men. We have been born with survival instincts, your liberal PC may someday be your end. Most dog dont bite, however I dont stop and pet rotweillers. Common sense.

Again, your analogy doesn't make a lot of sense. You don't pet a rotty because they're easily identifiable and are thought to have pre-disposed tendencies for aggression. I don't see how this would apply to a black person or Muslim...unless...oh %$%$%$%$.

Not the point. Today was made in 2010, a period when muslim extremists have declared war and have killed thousands of americans, using jets as brutal weapons.

Um, ok.

usually there is some division of opinion on topics, but Spence stands alone on this one. reminds of those wacky animal owners that believe they can hold hands with gorillas or keep tigers in their home.

I love the "Spence stands alone" line you keep rehashing. It really shows how you're working hard to reach an understanding.

One thing I've noticed repeatedly is that you seem to place the responsibility for understanding completely on the other party, treating all Muslims as a gigantic monolithic block. You blame moderates for not speaking out more against violence, but have you ever raised an ear to see if any are talking? You blame all innocent Muslims for not doing more, instead of taking ownership for the fear that you alone have control of. It's like a fear of all guns rather than those people who would use them for violence. In this respect you're acting pretty Left wing.

People tend to be more uncomfortable with things they're not used to. In an effort for outreach many Imam's have Open Mosque Days. You should seek one out and go talk to people.

-spence

[detbuch]

[QUOTE=spence; One thing I've noticed repeatedly is that you seem to place the responsibility for understanding completely on the other party, treating all Muslims as a gigantic monolithic block. You blame moderates for not speaking out more against violence, but have you ever raised an ear to see if any are talking? You blame all innocent Muslims for not doing more, instead of taking ownership for the fear that you alone have control of. It's like a fear of all guns rather than those people who would use them for violence. In this respect you're acting pretty Left wing.

People tend to be more uncomfortable with things they're not used to. In an effort for outreach many Imam's have Open Mosque Days. You should seek one out and go talk to people.

-spence[/QUOTE]

I have talked to two young Saudi Muslims who are here to study in our universities. They are very charming. One has the sentiments of a poet, the other is more into women and fast cars. What unites them is their love of their culture and religion. Neither approves of nor understands terrorists. Yet, both completely accept Shariah as being the only legitimate form of law. Though they enjoy the freedom of America, they totally accept the suppression of non-Muslims in Saudi Arabia. They don't see it as suppression. It is simply the will of God.

While I was listening to the Dennis Prager show, an American born Muslim from N.Y. called in to complain about Islamophobia and couldn't understand why we are afraid of loyal American Muslims. As the discussion progressed, Prager asked him if the U.S. population was predominantly Muslim, would he want us to be under Shariah law. After a brief pause, he said yes. I have heard sentiments from Muslim callers to talk shows that we would be better off if we had Shariah law.

Oklahoma has a proposal on the Nov. 2 ballot to prohibit Islamic law from being used in rulings of Oklahoma courts. Muneer Awad, executive director of the Oklahoma branch of the Council on American Islamic Relations opposes the ammendment.

I googled "do Muslims want Shariah law in the U.S?" and found, among many entries, a worldwide forum called Islamic Board which discusses all manner of Islamic related topics. Most of the members are Muslim, though there are non-Muslims--the latter often initiate controversial discussions. There were seven pages of discussion related to my search topic. It was a good 3 hour session of reading those and then browsing other topics. There was great unity of opinion on all topics, especially in response to non-Muslim members. There was a poll of members on whether they would choose democracy or Shariah law. At that point it was 42 for Shariah and 4 for democracy. There was a comment that "democracy is a man-made system, meaning rule by the people for the people. Thus it is contrary to Islam, because rule is for Alaah, the most high, the almighty, and it is not permissible to give legislative rights to any human being." There was a quotation from the Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwahs that "the one who understands the true nature of the democratic system and ruling therein, then he nominates himself or someone else for election is approving this system, and is working with it, is in grave danger, because the democratic system is contrary to Islam . . ." The ruling goes on to have an exception--that if you involve with a system of democratic election in order to "be able to change the system to one that operates according to the Sharee'ah of Islam, and they are using this as a means to overcome the system of government" it would be acceptable to participate. Further "the Muslims in a country that is not governed according to Islamic Sharee'ah should do their utmost and strive as much as they can to bring about rule according to Islamic Sharee'ah . . . As for supporting one who calls for no implementation of Islamic Sharee'ah, that is not permissible, rather it may lead to kufr." Probably why the C.A.I.R. opposes the Oklahoma ammendment.

Another interesting thread on this forum is titled "what is a moderate Muslim?" Within the 4 page discussion, it is asked if it follows that persons who strictly follow the Qu'ran and the Sunnah are what, on the forum are called "good Muslims" are, actually, what non-Muslims refer to as Extremist or Radical Muslims. And if those who don't strictly follow the Qu'ran and the Sunnah and are called "bad Muslims" on the forum are what, in fact, non-Muslims refer to as moderate Muslims. One of the forum Muslims immediately responds that, yes, that would indeed follow, and that 99 percent of the muslims on the forum, and perhaps the world, would on that basis be viewed as extremist/fundamentalist/fanatical/overzealous Muslims.

There is on this forum a general consensus that Islam is both religion AND law. To quote one member, "Islam is a constitution, a covenant a way of life." There is also the opinion that "moderate Muslims" and "extremist Muslims" are phrases that have been invented by non-Muslims, and that there are only Muslims.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

While we think this is "new" as you say Islamaphobia is rampant, let me challenge you. Last weekend was watching a classic movie from my youth with my kids. Back to the Future. Anyone remember who pulled up in the VW van and shot Doc? Anyone remember why?
Its was the Libyians, dressed in islamic garb and shooting AK-47s, why? Doc was supposed to deliver plutonium to build a nuclear bomb! Over 25 yrs ago Spence and it was common place to see Islamists as a threat. No one watched that movie and said" Libyians as terrorists? Build a Nuclear Bomb? But Islam is a religion of peace! Thats Crazy!"
Couple that with the last 9 years, and if you dont get it, I cant help you.

Or the bombings of la Belle Discotek in Berlin Germany (I was still living there at the time). Kobar towers, The Embassies, Pretty much anything Abu Nidal. Pan Am.

Mr Klinghoffer is unavailable for comment.

Here courtesy of Wikipedia while I cook dinner:

* 26 February 1993 – World Trade Center bombing, New York City. 6 killed.
* 13 March 1993 – 1993 Bombay bombings. Mumbai, India. 250 dead, 700 injured.
* 28 July 1994 – Buenos Aires, Argentina. Vehicle suicide bombing attack against AMIA building, the local Jewish community representation. 85 dead, more than 300 injured.
* 24 December 1994 – Air France Flight 8969 hijacking in Algiers by 3 members of Armed Islamic Group of Algeria and another terrorist. 7 killed including 4 hijackers.
* 25 June 1996 – Khobar Towers bombing, 20 killed, 372 wounded.
* 17 November 1997 – Luxor attack, 6 armed Islamic terrorists attack tourists at Egypts famous Luxor Ruins. 68 foreign tourists killed.
* 14 February 1998 – Bombing in Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, India. 13 bombs explode within a 12 km radius. 46 killed and over 200 injured.
* 7 August 1998 – 1998 United States embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya. 224 dead. 4000+ injured.
* 4 September 1999 – A series of bombing attacks in several cities of Russia, nearly 300 killed.
* 12 October 2000 – Attack on the USS cole in the Yemeni port of Aden.
* 11 September 2001 – 4 planes hijacked and crashed into World Trade Center and The Pentagon by 19 hijackers. Nearly 3000 dead.[208]
* 13 December 2001 – Suicide attack on Indian parliament in New Delhi by Pakistan-based Islamist terrorist organizations, Jaish-E-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Toiba. Aimed at eliminating the top leadership of India and causing anarchy in the country. 7 dead, 12 injured.
* 27 March 2002 – Suicide bomb attack on a Passover Seder in a Hotel in Netanya, Israel. 30 dead, 133 injured.
* 30 March 2002 and 24 November 2002 - Attacks on the Hindu Raghunath temple, India. Total 25 dead.
* 7 May 2002 – Bombing in al-Arbaa, Algeria. 49 dead, 117 injured.
* 24 September 2002 – Machine Gun attack on Hindu temple in Ahmedabad, India. 31 dead, 86 injured.[209][210]
* 12 October 2002 – Bombing in Bali nightclub. 202 killed, 300 injured.[211]
* 16 May 2003 – Casablanca Attacks – 4 simultaneous attacks in Casablanca killing 33 civilians (mostly Moroccans) carried by Salafia Jihadia.
* 11 March 2004 – Multiple bombings on trains near Madrid, Spain. 191 killed, 1460 injured (alleged link to Al-Qaeda).
* 1 September 2004 - Beslan school hostage crisis, approximately 344 civilians including 186 children killed.[212][213]
* 2 November 2004 – The murder of Theo van Gogh (film director) by Amsterdam-born jihadist Mohammed Bouyeri.[214]
* 4 February 2005 – Muslim terrorists attacked the Christian community in Demsa, Nigeria, killing 36 people, destroying property and displacing an additional 3000 people.
* 5 July 2005 - Attack at the Hindu Ram temple at Ayodhya, India; one of the most holy sites of Hinduism. 6 dead.
* 7 July 2005 – Multiple bombings in London Underground. 53 killed by four suicide bombers. Nearly 700 injured.
* 23 July 2005 – Bomb attacks at Sharm el-Sheikh, an Egyptian resort city, at least 64 people killed.
* 29 October 2005 – 29 October 2005 Delhi bombings, India. Over 60 killed and over 180 injured in a series of three attacks in crowded markets and a bus, just 2 days before the Diwali festival.[215]
* 9 November 2005 – 2005 Amman bombings. a series of coordinated suicide attacks on hotels in Amman, Jordan. Over 60 killed and 115 injured.[216][217] Four attackers including a husband and wife team were involved.[218]
* 7 March 2006 – 2006 Varanasi bombings, India. A series of attacks in the Sankath Mochan Hanuman temple and Cantonment Railway Station in the Hindu holy city of Varanasi. 28 killed and over 100 injured.[219]
* 11 July 2006 – 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings, Mumbai, India; a series of seven bomb blasts that took place over a period of 11 minutes on the Suburban Railway in Mumbai. 209 killed and over 700 injured.
* 14 August 2007 – Qahtaniya bombings: Four suicide vehicle bombers massacred nearly 800 members of northern Iraq's Yazidi sect in the deadliest Iraq war's attack to date.
* 26 July 2008 – 2008 Ahmedabad bombings, India. Islamic terrorists detonate at least 21 explosive devices in the heart of this industrial capital, leaving at least 56 dead and 200 injured. A Muslim group calling itself the Indian Mujahideen claims responsibility. Indian authorities believe that extremists with ties to Pakistan and/or Bangladesh are likely responsible and are intent on inciting communal violence.[220] Investigation by Indian police led to the eventual arrest of a number of terrorists suspected of carrying out the blasts, most of whom belong to a well-known terrorist group, The Students Islamic Movement of India.[221]
* 13 September 2008 – Bombing series in Delhi, India. Pakistani extremist groups plant bombs at several places including India Gate, out of which the ones at Karol Bagh, Connaught Place and Greater Kailash explode leaving around 30 people dead and 130 injured, followed by another attack two weeks later at the congested Mehrauli area, leaving 3 people dead.
* 26 November 2008 – Muslim extremists kill at least 174 people and wound numerous others in a series of coordinated attacks on India's largest city and financial capital, Mumbai. A group calling itself the Deccan Mujaheddin claims responsibility, however, the government of India suspects Islamic terrorists based in Pakistan are responsible. Ajmal Kasab, one of the terrorists, was caught alive.[222][223]
* 25 October 2009. Baghdad, Iraq. During a terrorist attack, two bomber vehicles detonated in the Green Zone, killing at least 155 people and injuring 520.
* 28 October 2009 – Peshawar, Pakistan. A car bomb is detonated in a woman exclusive shopping district, and over 110 killed and over 200 injured.
* 3 December 2009 – Mogadishu, Somalia. A male suicide bomber disguised as a woman detonates in a hotel meeting hall. The hotel was hosting a graduation ceremony for local medical students when the blast went off, killing four government ministers as well as other civilians.[224]
* 1 January 2010 – Lakki Marwat, Pakistan. A suicide car bomber drove his explosive-laden vehicle into a volleyball pitch as people gathered to watch a match killing more than 100 people.[225]
* 1 May 2010 - New York, New York, USA. Faisal Shahzad, an Islamic Pakistani American who received U.S. citizenship in December 2009, attempted to detonate a car bomb in Times Square working with the Pakistani Taliban or Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan.
* 28 May 2010 - Attacks on Ahmadi Mosques Lahore, Pakistan. Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan claimed attacks on two mosques simultaneously belonging to the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, killing nearly 100 and injuring many others.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Or the bombings of la Belle Discotek in Berlin Germany (I was still living there at the time). Kobar towers, The Embassies, Pretty much anything Abu Nidal. Pan Am.

Mr Klinghoffer is unavailable for comment.

Here courtesy of Wikipedia while I cook dinner:

* 26 February 1993 – World Trade Center bombing, New York City. 6 killed.
* 13 March 1993 – 1993 Bombay bombings. Mumbai, India. 250 dead, 700 injured.
* 28 July 1994 – Buenos Aires, Argentina. Vehicle suicide bombing attack against AMIA building, the local Jewish community representation. 85 dead, more than 300 injured.
* 24 December 1994 – Air France Flight 8969 hijacking in Algiers by 3 members of Armed Islamic Group of Algeria and another terrorist. 7 killed including 4 hijackers.
* 25 June 1996 – Khobar Towers bombing, 20 killed, 372 wounded.
* 17 November 1997 – Luxor attack, 6 armed Islamic terrorists attack tourists at Egypts famous Luxor Ruins. 68 foreign tourists killed.
* 14 February 1998 – Bombing in Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu, India. 13 bombs explode within a 12 km radius. 46 killed and over 200 injured.
* 7 August 1998 – 1998 United States embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya. 224 dead. 4000+ injured.
* 4 September 1999 – A series of bombing attacks in several cities of Russia, nearly 300 killed.
* 12 October 2000 – Attack on the USS cole in the Yemeni port of Aden.
* 11 September 2001 – 4 planes hijacked and crashed into World Trade Center and The Pentagon by 19 hijackers. Nearly 3000 dead.[208]
* 13 December 2001 – Suicide attack on Indian parliament in New Delhi by Pakistan-based Islamist terrorist organizations, Jaish-E-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Toiba. Aimed at eliminating the top leadership of India and causing anarchy in the country. 7 dead, 12 injured.
* 27 March 2002 – Suicide bomb attack on a Passover Seder in a Hotel in Netanya, Israel. 30 dead, 133 injured.
* 30 March 2002 and 24 November 2002 - Attacks on the Hindu Raghunath temple, India. Total 25 dead.
* 7 May 2002 – Bombing in al-Arbaa, Algeria. 49 dead, 117 injured.
* 24 September 2002 – Machine Gun attack on Hindu temple in Ahmedabad, India. 31 dead, 86 injured.[209][210]
* 12 October 2002 – Bombing in Bali nightclub. 202 killed, 300 injured.[211]
* 16 May 2003 – Casablanca Attacks – 4 simultaneous attacks in Casablanca killing 33 civilians (mostly Moroccans) carried by Salafia Jihadia.
* 11 March 2004 – Multiple bombings on trains near Madrid, Spain. 191 killed, 1460 injured (alleged link to Al-Qaeda).
* 1 September 2004 - Beslan school hostage crisis, approximately 344 civilians including 186 children killed.[212][213]
* 2 November 2004 – The murder of Theo van Gogh (film director) by Amsterdam-born jihadist Mohammed Bouyeri.[214]
* 4 February 2005 – Muslim terrorists attacked the Christian community in Demsa, Nigeria, killing 36 people, destroying property and displacing an additional 3000 people.
* 5 July 2005 - Attack at the Hindu Ram temple at Ayodhya, India; one of the most holy sites of Hinduism. 6 dead.
* 7 July 2005 – Multiple bombings in London Underground. 53 killed by four suicide bombers. Nearly 700 injured.
* 23 July 2005 – Bomb attacks at Sharm el-Sheikh, an Egyptian resort city, at least 64 people killed.
* 29 October 2005 – 29 October 2005 Delhi bombings, India. Over 60 killed and over 180 injured in a series of three attacks in crowded markets and a bus, just 2 days before the Diwali festival.[215]
* 9 November 2005 – 2005 Amman bombings. a series of coordinated suicide attacks on hotels in Amman, Jordan. Over 60 killed and 115 injured.[216][217] Four attackers including a husband and wife team were involved.[218]
* 7 March 2006 – 2006 Varanasi bombings, India. A series of attacks in the Sankath Mochan Hanuman temple and Cantonment Railway Station in the Hindu holy city of Varanasi. 28 killed and over 100 injured.[219]
* 11 July 2006 – 11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings, Mumbai, India; a series of seven bomb blasts that took place over a period of 11 minutes on the Suburban Railway in Mumbai. 209 killed and over 700 injured.
* 14 August 2007 – Qahtaniya bombings: Four suicide vehicle bombers massacred nearly 800 members of northern Iraq's Yazidi sect in the deadliest Iraq war's attack to date.
* 26 July 2008 – 2008 Ahmedabad bombings, India. Islamic terrorists detonate at least 21 explosive devices in the heart of this industrial capital, leaving at least 56 dead and 200 injured. A Muslim group calling itself the Indian Mujahideen claims responsibility. Indian authorities believe that extremists with ties to Pakistan and/or Bangladesh are likely responsible and are intent on inciting communal violence.[220] Investigation by Indian police led to the eventual arrest of a number of terrorists suspected of carrying out the blasts, most of whom belong to a well-known terrorist group, The Students Islamic Movement of India.[221]
* 13 September 2008 – Bombing series in Delhi, India. Pakistani extremist groups plant bombs at several places including India Gate, out of which the ones at Karol Bagh, Connaught Place and Greater Kailash explode leaving around 30 people dead and 130 injured, followed by another attack two weeks later at the congested Mehrauli area, leaving 3 people dead.
* 26 November 2008 – Muslim extremists kill at least 174 people and wound numerous others in a series of coordinated attacks on India's largest city and financial capital, Mumbai. A group calling itself the Deccan Mujaheddin claims responsibility, however, the government of India suspects Islamic terrorists based in Pakistan are responsible. Ajmal Kasab, one of the terrorists, was caught alive.[222][223]
* 25 October 2009. Baghdad, Iraq. During a terrorist attack, two bomber vehicles detonated in the Green Zone, killing at least 155 people and injuring 520.
* 28 October 2009 – Peshawar, Pakistan. A car bomb is detonated in a woman exclusive shopping district, and over 110 killed and over 200 injured.
* 3 December 2009 – Mogadishu, Somalia. A male suicide bomber disguised as a woman detonates in a hotel meeting hall. The hotel was hosting a graduation ceremony for local medical students when the blast went off, killing four government ministers as well as other civilians.[224]
* 1 January 2010 – Lakki Marwat, Pakistan. A suicide car bomber drove his explosive-laden vehicle into a volleyball pitch as people gathered to watch a match killing more than 100 people.[225]
* 1 May 2010 - New York, New York, USA. Faisal Shahzad, an Islamic Pakistani American who received U.S. citizenship in December 2009, attempted to detonate a car bomb in Times Square working with the Pakistani Taliban or Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan.
* 28 May 2010 - Attacks on Ahmadi Mosques Lahore, Pakistan. Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan claimed attacks on two mosques simultaneously belonging to the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, killing nearly 100 and injuring many others.

And out of that list 7 were in the "western" world, 2 in the United States. For what that's worth.