Its Palin 2, the sequel!

[RIJIMMY]

Since last week, cant open any news sites without seeing Christine O'Donnell's face plastered all over it. The liberal media is once again having a field day trying to do everything they can to make her look dumb and undermine any momentum against the dems. Since when would a DELAWARE candidate get so much press?
God forbid we have regular people try to run for office instead of career politicians or lawyers. I dont know a thing about her and dont care to. Its the people of Delaware that need to care.

[Bronko]

Democrats are in panic mode. They see they buzzsaw coming in November. O'Donnell is weak and they will kick her in the face and try to make her a laughing stock (which shouldn't be hard) however they will just be re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Did you see the "Town Hall" Obama held on CNBC yesterday? He was brutalized by the questions. They were so pointed and cutting that the damage was done before he could answer.

[Raven]

We need another TV personality
since Lindsey's goin back to jail.

[JohnnyD]

You know nothing about her, yet are defending her?

I'd bet it's this type of uninformed voters with that kind of mentality who are voting for Frank and have been for years. Do some research, then make an opinion instead of reaching out for ways to criticize the Democrats.

It's election season, what do you expect? Do you really think every single Republican isn't doing the same thing?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

You know nothing about her, yet are defending her?

I'd bet it's this type of uninformed voters with that kind of mentality who are voting for Frank and have been for years. Do some research, then make an opinion instead of reaching out for ways to criticize the Democrats.

It's election season, what do you expect? Do you really think every single Republican isn't doing the same thing?

ummm....he neither defended her nor criticized deomcrats in his post, just mentioned that she's oddly popular with the nasty lib media for a candidate from Delaware...someone is a little touchy...

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

You know nothing about her, yet are defending her?

I'd bet it's this type of uninformed voters with that kind of mentality who are voting for Frank and have been for years. Do some research, then make an opinion instead of reaching out for ways to criticize the Democrats.

It's election season, what do you expect? Do you really think every single Republican isn't doing the same thing?

see Scott's reply. How did I defend her?

So Johnny, there are HUNDREDS of mid-term elections across our 50 grand states and the ONLY one making national headlines is the one with the dingy, right wing, no-experienced, semi-attractive woman? There is no other story out there? How about Chucky Rangel running with pending CORRUPTION CHARGES? Aint that front page news?
This is all driven by the Media! If this was CA, NY, TX, FL - you know states that MATTER, maybe there would be a story, but this is freakin Delaware!

[likwid]

DERP DERP SHE'S PURTY DERP A DERP

[Redsoxticket]

There can be hundreds of mid-term elections but few senate seat elections which are more significant.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

see Scott's reply. How did I defend her?

Can't. "This message is hidden because scottw is on your ignore list."

So Johnny, there are HUNDREDS of mid-term elections across our 50 grand states and the ONLY one making national headlines is the one with the dingy, right wing, no-experienced, semi-attractive woman? There is no other story out there? How about Chucky Rangel running with pending CORRUPTION CHARGES? Aint that front page news?
This is all driven by the Media! If this was CA, NY, TX, FL - you know states that MATTER, maybe there would be a story, but this is freakin Delaware!

The one making national headlines THIS WEEK is the one who has thrust herself into the spotlight and since been picked up by major news outlets, not to mention a Tea Party member upsets the longest serving Representative for DE. I'll agree this is partly media driven because people are too stupid to go do their own research and allow the networks to filter politics for them. Many turn on whichever network aligns best with their opinion and don't question what comes out of it - be it CNN or FoxNews.

You must not be paying any attention to politics if you think any state's US Senators or Representatives don't matter. Remember that clusterf#$k of a healthcare bill that was passed thanks to exactly enough votes?

O'Donnell might be preferred by the DE's Republicans, but it's the Independents that choose elections. I don't know the specifics on DE's voting population but I do know that the latest Rasmussen report shows that O'Donnell has quite an uphill battle to win, whereas Mike Castle had a significant preference over Chris Coons.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Can't. "This message is hidden because scottw is on your ignore list."

The one making national headlines THIS WEEK is the one who has thrust herself into the spotlight and since been picked up by major news outlets, not to mention a Tea Party member upsets the longest serving Representative for DE. I'll agree this is partly media driven because people are too stupid to go do their own research and allow the networks to filter politics for them. Many turn on whichever network aligns best with their opinion and don't question what comes out of it - be it CNN or FoxNews.

You must not be paying any attention to politics if you think any state's US Senators or Representatives don't matter. Remember that clusterf#$k of a healthcare bill that was passed thanks to exactly enough votes?

O'Donnell might be preferred by the DE's Republicans, but it's the Independents that choose elections. I don't know the specifics on DE's voting population but I do know that the latest Rasmussen report shows that O'Donnell has quite an uphill battle to win, whereas Mike Castle had a significant preference over Chris Coons.

good job totally avoiding the initial post and my follow up. Very spence-ish of you. So O'Donell "thrust herself " in the spotlight? How'd she do that? A Tea Party member upsets a DE republican. You sure about that? I know she was supported by SOME of them, but was she a member? The Tea Party is not a political party, O'Donnell is a republican, thus thats why she was in the primary.
WHy is this race, so, so, so , so much more important than the other races? Why????

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

good job totally avoiding the initial post and my follow up. Very spence-ish of you. So O'Donell "thrust herself " in the spotlight? How'd she do that? A Tea Party member upsets a DE republican. You sure about that? I know she was supported by SOME of them, but was she a member? The Tea Party is not a political party, O'Donnell is a republican, thus thats why she was in the primary.
WHy is this race, so, so, so , so much more important than the other races? Why????

You're initial post was rather fully addressed in my initial reply. What was avoided? Why the liberal media is trying to make her look dumb and prevent any momentum? If that was truly a question and not just your typical bitching about Democrats, have you ever paid attention during an election?

You're right in terms of affiliation. She's a candidate strongly endorsed by the Tea Party would have been better to say. Trying to take over the nomination from an 18-year veteran and then winning is "thrusting herself into the spotlight".

You have major issues if you truly believe the proportion of news coverage something gets denotes its importance. The relative lack of coverage about the 9 Americans killed in Afghanistan today doesn't make it any less important. However, once the brush fire of news is picked up and turns into a blaze, politicians have to address it - along with the multiple people paraded onto news networks and tossed viewer-friendly, softball questions.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

You're initial post was rather fully addressed in my initial reply. What was avoided? Why the liberal media is trying to make her look dumb and prevent any momentum? If that was truly a question and not just your typical bitching about Democrats, have you ever paid attention during an election?

nope, I guess I dont pay attention to elections. there are 37 senate elections for the 100 seats on 11/2. Christine O'Donnell is the ONLY noteworthy one according to CNN. Foolish of me to question why.

Quote - You have major issues if you truly believe the proportion of news coverage something gets denotes its importance.

Ahh - not its importance, ITS INFLUENCE!!!! By linking the tea party with O'Donell and the right wing, and by filling the news with stories about her (whether true or untrue) serves the purpose of underming the movement. Its intentional. Same reason the NAACP went after the tea party. They are PURPOSELY trying to make a mockery fo O'Donnell, hence the Palin 2, the sequel. They need something to bash to take the INDEPENDENTs attention away from the issues!
Libs must be running out of things to wack off to. Nothing better than bashing people they disagree with and calling them narrow minded.

[RIJIMMY]

newsmax front page- not one mention of O'Donnell
Foxnews front page - not one mention of O'Donnell
CNN Politics - 2 of the 8 top stories - O'Donnell

Hmmm. I bet you'll say its cuz the "right" is embarrased by her? or maybe CNN has a very high Delaware following? Or could CNN possibly have another agenda?

influence Johnny. Game plan - tie the tea party to the right wing, make a fool out of O'Donnell. there is plenty of ammo there. They can milk her to election day. Avg american will link tea party to wackos, stay with safe vs. sorry.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Game plan - tie the tea party to the right wing, make a fool out of O'Donnell. there is plenty of ammo there.

This isn't some veiled attempt to tie her to the tea party! She was tea party (i.e. Palin backed) and is the definition of a 'right wing' social conservative!

Can you please point out a Tea party backed candidate who is not right of either the incumbent Repub, or the other Repub candidate? It will shut me up regarding your idea that the connection between the "Tea party" and the "Right Wing" by the evil media.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

This isn't some veiled attempt to tie her to the tea party! She was tea party (i.e. Palin backed) and is the definition of a 'right wing' social conservative!

Can you please point out a Tea party backed candidate who is not right of either the incumbent Repub, or the other Repub candidate? It will shut me up regarding your idea that the connection between the "Tea party" and the "Right Wing" by the evil media.

She is not the tea party, she was a republican candidate. She was backed by the tea party. I'll bet you anything you want the American Socialist Party endorsed and supported Obamas election. Does that make him a member? They supported the candidate that was not mainstream, consistent across the country
read my response again - I said the media is trying to link the tea party to the right wing. Yes - O'Donell may be right wing, but the tea party is not (see other thread). Bryan - of the 37 other senate races why is O'Donnell on the front page everyday????? NO mention of who she is running against!!! If she was an intelligent speaker with years of experience there wound be no news. Its all about making a fool of her, using her as the "face" of the tea party to influence voters

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Can you please point out a Tea party backed candidate who is not right of either the incumbent Repub, or the other Repub candidate? It will shut me up regarding your idea that the connection between the "Tea party" and the "Right Wing" by the evil media.

Scott Brown. Now shut up.

[RIJIMMY]

hmmm, O'Donnel wasnt even on the list back in April

List of Tea Party Express Midterm Endorsements

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

She is not the tea party, she was a republican candidate. She was backed by the tea party. I said the media is trying to link the tea party to the right wing. Yes - O'Donell may be right wing, but the tea party is not (see other thread).

OK. again, if the tea party is NOT right wing, WHY do they keep backing right wing candidates? Show me an example of them backing a 'left wing' candidate, if it is just about supporting non-mainstream candidates across the country.

OK, Scott Brown, GREAT example. now he is wandering to the middle, as forecasted by many and he is getting BEAT on by people in the republican party who wanted him to be further right that he is.

as far as the media, is this different than the two days of Alvin Greene nonsense had. I think they go for the potential train wreck on either side. I'm just arguing that the Tea party, by their backing the candidates they have, has linked them to the "right wing'

She is woefully underqualified, a decent looking women with a history of talking out against whacking off! She is "news worthy" like a blooper reel waiting to happen.

if she was a middle aged, reasonably well spoken male, tea party backed candidate, she probably wouldn't get the press she is (see the race in Alaska recently) where was the front page ad naseum CNN coverage of that win linking the Tea Party to the 'far right'?

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

She is woefully underqualified, a decent looking women with a history of talking out against whacking off! She is "news worthy" like a blooper reel waiting to happen.

if she was a middle aged, reasonably well spoken male, tea party backed candidate, she probably wouldn't get the press she is (see the race in Alaska recently) where was the front page ad naseum CNN coverage of that win linking the Tea Party to the 'far right'?

newsworthy or influence worthy?
Its a sham. Its the Palin attack plan. But the funny thing is, as much as Palin was proved to be a moron, look how much influence she has. I would think Americans might care what O'Donnell has to say in a debate vs. her comments on "Politcially Incorrect" which is a comedy issues debate. If she wasnt entertaining, she would not have gotten the gig.
I also love when "right wing" candidates get blasted for speaking out on sex. I wonder what Biden, a good catholic thinks about pre-marital sex and masturbation? I was a Catholic for years, both of those (2 of my favorite things) were big, big, big no nos for Catholics. So is she really wacky? Or are all Catholics hypocrates?

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

I also love when "right wing" candidates get blasted for speaking out on sex. I wonder what Biden, a good catholic thinks about pre-marital sex and masturbation? I was a Catholic for years, both of those (2 of my favorite things) were big, big, big no nos for Catholics. So is she really wacky? Or are all Catholics hypocrates?

I think most are hypocrites, or choose not to follow parts of their faith. As a severely lapsed catholic (Agnostic now) I think the church is woefully out of touch anyways.

I think she is amusing, but her record of lying about her past and financial ineptitude in her personal life is going to bite her in the ass.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I think most are hypocrites, or choose not to follow parts of their faith. As a severely lapsed catholic (Agnostic now) I think the church is woefully out of touch anyways.

I think she is amusing, but her record of lying about her past and financial ineptitude in her personal life is going to bite her in the ass.

sounds like she is more qualified for Geithners job.

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

but her record of lying about her past and financial ineptitude in her personal life is going to bite her in the ass.

That's funny that it will hurt her chances, when in reality it's the thing she has most in common with the members who currently hold office.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

Can't. "This message is hidden because scottw is on your ignore list."

touchy and juvenile....


Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I'd bet it's this type of uninformed voters....
people are too stupid to go do their own research ......
have you ever paid attention during an election?
You have major issues .....



angry Obamoron

[scottw]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

OK. again, if the tea party is NOT right wing, WHY do they keep backing right wing candidates? Show me an example of them backing a 'left wing' candidate, if it is just about supporting non-mainstream candidates across the country.

show me a "left wing" candidate that identifies with the Tea Party principles? it's not "just about supporting non-mainstream candidates"..there are a set of principles that are common to Tea Party goers that happen not to be likely shared with "left-wing" candidates...I know, I know...it's not FAIR....but...this isn't really that complicated...thought you were supposed to be smart or maybe just "woefully underqualified"? ?

also...there are an equal number of dem and rep cadidates...let me know when the lamestream media begins an in-depth anal exam of a democrat candidate anywhere...

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

The Tea Party is not a political party, O'Donnell is a republican, thus thats why she was in the primary.

Pretty much one and the same now:
New tea party: energy, money and detente with GOP - Yahoo! News

"Separate tea party groups still squabble over roles for Republican insiders within the movement, but the conservative activists and GOP stalwarts have reached a truce for the common goal of defeating Democrats, heeding calls for unity from Republicans including Sarah Palin."

Don't know why Republicans would want to directly associate themselves with a bunch of reckless, racist hillbillies. YeeeeHaaawwwww!!

[spence]

There was a Social Republican on CNN this morning who made a good point. Basically that his party right now is more interested in promoting effective bomb throwers than good legislators.

The problem with people like O'Donnell (and like Palin) is that there's no substance under the suit. All they do is recite overly simplified talking points, stir the pot on divisive issues and get in jabs for the blogs.

Is this really the fresh blood that's going to revitalize the GOP?

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

There was a Social Republican on CNN this morning who made a good point. Basically that his party right now is more interested in promoting effective bomb throwers than good legislators.

The problem with people like O'Donnell (and like Palin) is that there's no substance under the suit. All they do is recite overly simplified talking points, stir the pot on divisive issues and get in jabs for the blogs.

Is this really the fresh blood that's going to revitalize the GOP?

-spence

What's a "good legislator"?

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by scottw

show me a "left wing" candidate that identifies with the Tea Party principles? it's not "just about supporting non-mainstream candidates"..there are a set of principles that are common to Tea Party goers that happen not to be likely shared with "left-wing" candidates...I know, I know...it's not FAIR....but...this isn't really that complicated...thought you were supposed to be smart or maybe just "woefully underqualified"? ?

also...there are an equal number of dem and rep cadidates...let me know when the lamestream media begins an in-depth anal exam of a democrat candidate anywhere...

I don't give a %$%$%$%$ if it is fair and have had a pretty consitant position that the influence of the Tea Party in a general election is over stated. If Martha Coakley had run a halfway decent campaign, or had a frigging personality, it would have swung the otherway, Tea Party or not.


RIJ is stating that the Tea Party is being unfairly labeled 'right wing' but by your definition above, it sure sounds it. My point was simply that they are labled 'right' b/c the ARE 'right'

I'm going fishing. go do what O'Donnell says she doesn't do while looking at her picture Scott

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

If Martha Coakley had run a halfway decent campaign, or had a frigging personality, it would have swung the otherway, Tea Party or not.

She has a personality, it showed!! Second time she had the wrong campaign people. She must of offshored her campaign advice

She's never won an election in her life

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by buckman

What's a "good legislator"?

So far, here's a shocker, I'd say Scott Brown.

TO me.
a few qualities, as this could be it's own thread
1. Honest
2. Blind to party lines
3. Does what is best for his constituents while still looking out for the country as a whole.
4. Has a hot singing daughter (ok, not required).