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08-12-2010, 11:55 AM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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All this posting of this and that should happen falls on deaf ears posted on the web. Best bet is to send same to dem etcetc. in reality the fine will once again be less than the profit from the sale of said fish so really nothing resolved....
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Last edited by ThrowingTimber; 08-12-2010 at 12:01 PM..
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08-12-2010, 12:36 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: little compton ri 02837
Posts: 339
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Last edited by The Dad Fisherman; 08-12-2010 at 12:58 PM..
Reason: Not an acceptable alternative....remember he may have family
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08-12-2010, 01:15 PM
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Great White Scup Hunter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In the Corner...
Posts: 2,251
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Originally Posted by ThrowingTimber
All this posting of this and that should happen falls on deaf ears posted on the web. Best bet is to send same to dem etcetc. in reality the fine will once again be less than the profit from the sale of said fish so really nothing resolved....
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True,,, but you have to admit its fun to vent,,,, especially since I catch catch anything noteworthy this year...
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08-12-2010, 01:36 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,160
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If you think that he's the only RI or CT resident, with a Mass commercial license, loading his boat from RI, CT, NY or EEZ waters and bringing them to a Mass market, you're dreaming. He's the tip of a very large iceberg.
Do the math--at $3.50 a pound, a Tues-Thurs commercial limit can be a grand or more, and a $450 fine is well worth the risk.
Now if the fine was $450 per fish.........
And Mass. DMF has acted in the past to forfeit gear, and even boats. But unless they see him coming from out of state or Federal waters, there isn't a damn thing they can do on an open day. Multi-state enforcement is tough. RI isn't in any better shape financially than Mass, probably even worse, and I can imagine that DEM's budget is stretched to the max. They have to patrol where and when they can.
And you can bet your bottom dollar that someone dimed this dude out. He shot his mouth off to the wrong person, or maybe a pissed off Mass. commercial saw him operate the hidey-hole at the dock.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-12-2010, 03:18 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
Posts: 11,795
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Mike P
don,t limit it to those 3 states . come spend some time in RI waters / & you,ll notice alot of mass anglers /commercial ..fishing RI ,,,,,,,,, short ass run from westport to RI waters .
@ least in RI / you can,t just buy a license .. I think there are 308 total & most of them are [us] senior citizens .
In Mass .ya got the cash , ya get the license .................... I think a couple of years ago .I heard a number around 5000 ................................ if that the case just about every yahoo ..... that gets lucky & catches a 34" or over sells it .
there are some commando striper addicts on this site ..... I hear the stories of the hours . of no sleep , no food , driving miles & miles ...........in quest of Mrs. Cow .
most are young & all by choice .
try keeping up with a real commercial R&R ......... for the guy that is making a living on the water / not expenses ;;
I personally don,t know of any person ......that comes near to the time , effort , danger that these guys put in .
Its not like [[BACK IN THE DAY] .......you caught it >>>>>>>>>> you sold it .all it had to be was 16 " ...........Now ................... with open & close seasons & days of the week ....... you HAVE to go when its open ..no taking that day off cuz its raining & blowin 35 from the NE .
no sundays @ the beach with the family .in mass its a 5 fish limit on Sunday ......but when RI is open ..Sunday is a full day ....................... & friday & Saturday are the days you can,t fish commercially for Fluke or bass .
Its kinda like the deadliest Catch >>>>>> you snooze you loose .;;
been there / done that >>>>> now I pay the price ... no complaining ,.it was a choice I made many years ago .when I did have options 
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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08-12-2010, 04:50 PM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,519
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How about Yakuza justice.
Every offense just cigar cutter a finger and send him on his way.
That'll learn ya.
R.L. Ermey would be the judge. 
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May fortune favor the foolish....
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08-13-2010, 01:10 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,160
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clammer
Mike P
don,t limit it to those 3 states . come spend some time in RI waters / & you,ll notice alot of mass anglers /commercial ..fishing RI ,,,,,,,,, short ass run from westport to RI waters .
@ least in RI / you can,t just buy a license .. I think there are 308 total & most of them are [us] senior citizens .
In Mass .ya got the cash , ya get the license .................... I think a couple of years ago .I heard a number around 5000 ................................ if that the case just about every yahoo ..... that gets lucky & catches a 34" or over sells it .
there are some commando striper addicts on this site ..... I hear the stories of the hours . of no sleep , no food , driving miles & miles ...........in quest of Mrs. Cow .
most are young & all by choice .
try keeping up with a real commercial R&R ......... for the guy that is making a living on the water / not expenses ;;
I personally don,t know of any person ......that comes near to the time , effort , danger that these guys put in .
Its not like [[BACK IN THE DAY] .......you caught it >>>>>>>>>> you sold it .all it had to be was 16 " ...........Now ................... with open & close seasons & days of the week ....... you HAVE to go when its open ..no taking that day off cuz its raining & blowin 35 from the NE .
no sundays @ the beach with the family .in mass its a 5 fish limit on Sunday ......but when RI is open ..Sunday is a full day ....................... & friday & Saturday are the days you can,t fish commercially for Fluke or bass .
Its kinda like the deadliest Catch >>>>>> you snooze you loose .;;
been there / done that >>>>> now I pay the price ... no complaining ,.it was a choice I made many years ago .when I did have options 
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Oh, I agree--I'm not singling out just the RI and CT--and even some NY guys--who have Mass licenses and bring in fish from their waters. There are at least as many SE Mass guys running out there, too.
I have always said that the Mass license is way too cheap, and way too easy to get. Some guys make a living commercial fishing--they get their boat license early in the year, they fish every species in season, they're grandfathered into the fluke fishery, and they also buy a master species commercial shellfish license. And many, many people just get the boat permit and striped bass endorsement and fish the second Tuesday in July until the season is closed, usually by the end of August.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-15-2010, 09:46 PM
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Work hard. Fish harder.
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 765
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThrowingTimber
All this posting of this and that should happen falls on deaf ears posted on the web. Best bet is to send same to dem etcetc. in reality the fine will once again be less than the profit from the sale of said fish so really nothing resolved....
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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Good point.
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08-15-2010, 10:08 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Union,NJ
Posts: 989
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Originally Posted by Fish360
Good point.
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It really sucks for the striped bass but it's job security for the ep's and fines are revenue for the state.... So habitual offenders generate revenue for the state and in return an economic benefit for the state??? In this incident wasn't it a mass boat taking bass out of Ri? It was Ri that economically benefited on this as i hear he was more than eager to pay the fine and move on...
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Last edited by CowHunter; 08-15-2010 at 10:56 PM..
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