and by the way, Iran is building nukes and we're in 2 wars....

[Raven]

were the prep work for the war in IRAN

just my opinion/// tho

[spence]

Originally Posted by Raven

were the prep work for the war in IRAN

just my opinion/// tho

I don't think so.

Iran really doesn't have anything to gain from nukes, aside from using them as a deterrent to protect what resources they still have left. Iran really isn't in a military position to attack any of it's neighbors, gains nothing by giving a weapon to (mostly Sunni mind you) terrorists who might use it and would be glass in a heartbeat if they actually attacked Israel.

I know there are some religious wackos in Iran who believe in the 12th Imam, but there also are a lot of rational people who wouldn't let a few crazies ruin the party.

Iran also still seems quite a ways from making a real nuke. The method they're using (from AQ Kahn) to refine uranium is slow and many experts think they're running into technical difficulties keeping all those centrifuges spinning.

Personally, I'd be less concerned with Islamic states becoming nuclear powers as I am with Islamic states forming alliances against the West.

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't think so.

Iran really doesn't have anything to gain from nukes, aside from using them as a deterrent to protect what resources they still have left. Iran really isn't in a military position to attack any of it's neighbors, gains nothing by giving a weapon to (mostly Sunni mind you) terrorists who might use it and would be glass in a heartbeat if they actually attacked Israel.

I know there are some religious wackos in Iran who believe in the 12th Imam, but there also are a lot of rational people who wouldn't let a few crazies ruin the party.

Iran also still seems quite a ways from making a real nuke. The method they're using (from AQ Kahn) to refine uranium is slow and many experts think they're running into technical difficulties keeping all those centrifuges spinning.

Personally, I'd be less concerned with Islamic states becoming nuclear powers as I am with Islamic states forming alliances against the West.

-spence

The facts and the billions they are spending to have a the weapon show a different picture.
I'll have to get a pair of those rose colored glasses.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

The facts and the billions they are spending to have a the weapon show a different picture.

I don't doubt they're trying to build a weapon, but what picture does this show? Many countries have nukes and don't use them.

-spence

[striperman36]

It the chance they will or they will end up in the wrong hands ala 24

[spence]

Originally Posted by striperman36

It the chance they will or they will end up in the wrong hands ala 24

Yea, because after spending billions and making their people suffer (as that money isn't being spent on them) for years they're going to just let one get loose?

Doesn't sound very likely to me.

They hate al Qaeda, not going there.

Hamas? Not a chance...

Personally I think they're playing a dangerous game. If a nuke (god forbid) did go off somewhere, because of their programs they will be seen as a target of retaliation regardless of their true position. Ultimately, people are most interested in their own survival (Libya fits well here) and unless there really is a doomsday cult with their finger on the button there are few scenarios in which an Iranian nuke situation plays out.

Perhaps the most likely is a defensive position against Arabs to the southwest, and to maintain the military dictatorship against a rising populist movement.

Now all that's not to say that I think a nuclear Iran is a good thing, certainly a new arms race in the Middle East isn't in our interest. But if our policy is based only on extremes it's probably not going to deliver. To date we've wanted it all, disarmament and regime change...it's clear we're probably not going to get both, at least not at the same time.

-spence

[striperman36]

Its gonna happen , dirty bomb somewhere in the world next 10 years