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02-14-2010, 08:53 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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02-14-2010, 08:57 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Actually, now that Larry isn't talking to us anymore, whatayasay we go over there, beat him up, and steal his clear coat. Fred and Eddy, you guys can take him and I'll grab the clear coat.
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02-14-2010, 09:01 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
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 I've been made similar offers, ask about the great strawberry heist...If there's running to do, I"M your man. |
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02-14-2010, 09:05 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Harmony, Rhode Island
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Finally finished! I am so slow. This is my largest batch to date (30). They are all epoxy sealed red cedar. None have been tested but I'm optimistic. I've learned almost everything from this forum (& clumsy trial and error), so thanks to all.
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02-14-2010, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisjoe13
Finally finished! I am so slow. This is my largest batch to date (30). They are all epoxy sealed red cedar. None have been tested but I'm optimistic. I've learned almost everything from this forum (& clumsy trial and error), so thanks to all.
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Very nice work!! |
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02-14-2010, 09:09 AM
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Is M&D open today? I'm headed that way in a few..
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02-14-2010, 09:29 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: plymouth,ma
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Originally Posted by numbskull
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I've been pretty lucky so far this year.
I ran out of sys 3 clearcoat so I ordered some more, when I opened it I was suprised to see how clear the hardener was. The last of my old hardener was very dark yellow, the new stuffs almost clear.
I've been heating my plugs before I epoxy them (The basements cold) and it seems like that lets the epoxy go on easier. I flipped the last set of darters and I was suprised how quickly the cool air made the clear coat stop running. I bet I only needed to flip 2 or 3 times in the first 30 minutes or so. |
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02-14-2010, 10:00 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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Originally Posted by numbskull
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LOL. I am going to do my first batch today. Got to hit church first, Our Lady of Perpetual Motion, to pray to saint George the patron saint of top coats for a little help.
Diggin the hardener will eventually get yellow. Doesn't seem to effect the stuff though |
"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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02-14-2010, 10:14 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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It all went wrong.
Drying box too hot, maybe, caused pull away from the darter edges. New batch of epoxy, it skims in the cup and produces clumps when you brush it. That and too much dust in the shop. Some kind of silicone problem in the paint. So now I have 40 odd no-slip darters with pock marks and easy wear edges. 
I want to build stuff for other people, but giving away this crap is embarrassing. It was all looking so good right up to that last step.
So it goes. |
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02-14-2010, 10:30 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: plymouth,ma
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Originally Posted by numbskull
It all went wrong.
Drying box too hot, maybe, caused pull away from the darter edges. New batch of epoxy, it skims in the cup and produces clumps when you brush it. That and too much dust in the shop. Some kind of silicone problem in the paint. So now I have 40 odd no-slip darters with pock marks and easy wear edges.
I want to build stuff for other people, but giving away this crap is embarrassing. It was all looking so good right up to that last step.
So it goes. |
That sucks but don't worry about giving them out, no one will complain. Last year darters were the only thing I had problems with on the spinner, I'm not sure why but i think its because they're not symetrical and it couldn't flow evenly around the body like a round plug does. Darters are the only plugs I still flip... |
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02-14-2010, 10:31 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
It all went wrong.
Drying box too hot, maybe, caused pull away from the darter edges. New batch of epoxy, it skims in the cup and produces clumps when you brush it.
I want to build stuff for other people, but giving away this crap is embarrassing. It was all looking so good right up to that last step.
So it goes.
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George, you might want to abandon the drying box and let them just spin for a day on your rod dryer as it seems to work best for me. My basement is about 70 degrees and the sys 3 sets up good in 12 hours and is real hard in 24. I can imagine the heated dryer will keep the stuff viscous longer than you want, thus the running problems may occur.
My stuff skimmed in the cup if I let it sit there too long and didn't stir it. If you treat the stuff like a cement mixer and keep stirring, the clumps are minimized.
Keep in mind here I'm doing small batches (30cc) and only coating 5-6 plugs at a time.
Finally, I hate to sound like a know it all on the sys 3 as I'm a rank beginner plug builder, but I've finished hundreds of fishing rods and the sys 3 properties are
much like aftcote properties with regard to mixing/applying, minus the clumping.
Last edited by Back Beach; 02-14-2010 at 10:44 AM..
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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02-14-2010, 10:33 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Fork
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
It all went wrong.
Drying box too hot, maybe, caused pull away from the darter edges. New batch of epoxy, it skims in the cup and produces clumps when you brush it. That and too much dust in the shop. Some kind of silicone problem in the paint. So now I have 40 odd no-slip darters with pock marks and easy wear edges.
I want to build stuff for other people, but giving away this crap is embarrassing. It was all looking so good right up to that last step.
So it goes. |
Good morning all.I am in epoxy hell also one whole batch ruined I am sick of it their has to be a better way. |
Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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02-14-2010, 10:12 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Originally Posted by numbskull
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This might sound funny, but I've found the epoxy to be the easiest part of this entire process. This is due to the fact I'm setting them up on my rod spinner and proceeding like I'm finishing a rod. I'm only doing 5-6 plugs at a time, thus it will take me 8-10 sessions to get everything done as the system three takes a while to set up. I'll get some pics up later. |
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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02-14-2010, 10:17 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
This might sound funny, but I've found the epoxy to be the easiest part of this entire process. .
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Stay away from me. You are now TOTALLY jinxed, poor soul. The epoxy gods do not tolerate insolence. |
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