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		|  04-14-2003, 03:52 PM | #1 |  
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				How do we avoid getting Seasick and Motion Sickness
			 
 All of you probably know that I'm going on a charter fishing trip. And I would like to look for medicines or methods to prevent myself from getting a seasick.  Any Idea? |  
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		|  04-14-2003, 04:35 PM | #2 |  
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				Seasick prevention
			 
 I have used Transderm Scop in the past.  You need a prescription for it, but it's a small patch you put behind your ear before you leave (that's key to most medecines and remedies you can't take 'em after you're sick because you'll probably be on your way in by the time they take effect).  I've heard people say it left them feeling less out of sorts than Dramamine, however all I felt was a little thirsty (though the patch may not have been the cause at all).  I only use it when I know I'm going to be completely out of sight of land, but it works well for me.There was another thread on "Ginger" in another one of the forums today, too.  I read somewhere that ginger in any form is helpful, so I usually take along ginger ale and ginger snaps.  If it's supposed to be cold I've been told ginger tea is pretty good tasting, too.
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		|  04-14-2003, 05:10 PM | #3 |  
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				 | i see. i don't understand some anti-motion sickness medicines don't always work sometimes. i took a dramamine last summer when i went fishing with my pop on the party boat in plum isle. i took it while i was on the boat and sailing to the spot. so i should take whatever anti-motion sickness medicines before boarding on a boat? |  
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		|  04-14-2003, 06:34 PM | #4 |  
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				 | You should read the directions on the medication you are going to take. Some require you to take it many hours before you hit the water. |  
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		|  04-14-2003, 06:42 PM | #5 |  
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				 | I had good luck with Bonine, it is usually next to the Dramamine in the pharmacy. Bonine doesn't cause drowsiness.
 Ginger works well.
 
 There is some real all natural ginger ale from health food stores you could drink while out there as well as take the pills.
 
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		|  04-14-2003, 06:43 PM | #6 |  
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				 | Take it ahead of time! |  
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		|  04-14-2003, 07:14 PM | #7 |  
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				 | alright, thanks, guys. |  
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		|  04-14-2003, 07:20 PM | #8 |  
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				 | Notaro et al, I'm gonna bounce this over to the main forum as this section is more for written How Tos and advice instead of questions...
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		|  04-14-2003, 08:43 PM | #9 |  
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		|  04-14-2003, 08:43 PM | #10 |  
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		|  04-15-2003, 06:47 AM | #11 |  
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				 | I get mildly sea sick in the worst conditions, so I can ususally just deal with it and go back to work.
 Tips I use:
 Stay on the weather deck if possible, if not at least stay where you can see the horizon.  If you lay down in a warm still cabin you're DEAD.
 
 Avoid food that would normally make your stomach feel funny.
 
 Take some plain crackers and ginger ale in the event you do get sick or start feeling queasy.
 
 Get a good nights sleep the night before if possible, you are certainly in for trouble if you show up at the boat with a throbbing headache and a hangover.
 
 Some guys can talk themselves into being sick just to get you going avoid them at all costs!!!!!
 
 ENJOY YOUR TRIP!
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		|  04-15-2003, 07:29 AM | #12 |  
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				 | Don't know its never happened to me...YET !!!! 
Watch what you eat, but I've heard its better to make sure your stomach IS NOT empty.  So you should eat something small and during the whole day at sea.
 
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		|  04-15-2003, 08:05 AM | #13 |  
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				 | what ever you do don't think of a liver sandwich served in a dirty ash tray.  |  
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		|  04-15-2003, 08:38 AM | #14 |  
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				 | ...my suggestion is DON'T sit inside during the boat ride out. The smell(s), whether they're from greasy breakfast dishes prepared on board, or the old dude who's been going for the last 3 days straight with NO change of clothes or the guy who threw up 15 minutes into the ride out..  ...Stand outside with the wind in your face...thinking about the pool winner your going to catch the minute he says...."Lines IN!!"
 
Don't be thinking...."am I going to get sick", that'll do you in all the time. The night before, it's important to rest up, and eat solid foods. Bring plently of grub for the ride too. Try to get into conversation too, that will keep your mind off things..and INTO fish....you should have NO problem in that category    
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		|  04-15-2003, 08:47 AM | #15 |  
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 Notaro, 
Write this down.
 
WHAT JIMBO SAID.
TRANSDERM SCOP PRESCRIPTION PATCHES. 
Go see your doc and get a prescription.  It isn't that much $$$ and I swear by this medication!  It has yet to fail me.  All you need to do is put it on behind your ear TWO HOURS before you get on the boat.  Typical side efffects are slight dizziness and dry mouth.
 
The problem I've had with Dramamine/Bonine is that it can make you drowsy, and it hasn't always worked for me.  I remember back in Spring 2000 - I was on the Miss Hatteras (NC) party boat.  Took the dramamine a few hours before the boat left the dock.  
 
An hour into the trip I couldn't stop hurling and I was dredging up bloody bile by the time the final "lines up" was called.  I thought I was going to die.     
If you're prone to seasickness (and nearly everyone is) - DON'T MESS AROUND AND GET THE Rx PATCH.
http://www.transdermscop.com 
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		|  04-15-2003, 08:51 AM | #16 |  
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		| ..I couldn't stop hurling and I was dredging up bloody bile by the time the final "lines up" was called. I thought I was going to die... |  Fishing at it's Best!!.....eh weewee   |  
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		|  04-15-2003, 08:53 AM | #17 |  
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		|  04-15-2003, 08:54 AM | #18 |  
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		| Originally posted by Mr.Kav what ever you do don't think of a liver sandwich served in a dirty ash tray.
   |  Dave, did ya say you wanted beets and onions with that?.....  |  
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		|  04-15-2003, 10:27 AM | #19 |  
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				 | How about a greasy undercooked egg, with greasy home fries and a cup of day old instant coffee. (Ok, the instant coffee was "fresh", but I' do agree about watching the horizen, eating solid foods (pretzels, cookies etc...) try to limit your fluid intake because the more fluid in your stomach, the more it sloshes around. I got sick once on a charter boat, but it was like being in the SS Minnow in the open scenes of GILLIGAN'S ISLAND. Anything you can do to keep your mind busy, such as talking or reading, will help. Then there's always the pills and patches if you so decide. Good luck, and if you think you might be "chumming", bring along some gum or mints. |  
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		|  04-15-2003, 10:51 AM | #20 |  
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				 | I have seen a lot of sailors using the patch on rough days.  They claim it works but you may feel weird. (weird is better then sick IMO)  I would see a doctor and get the patch if your really have a problem.  I have only gotten sick a couple times in my life but I know how you feel, it really sucks.   Here is what I do prior to a big fishing trip.
 
 1) never booze the night prior to fishing...a hangover is not the way to start the fishing day.
 
 2) get a good nights sleep
 
 3) eat a good meal but don't pig out.
 
 4) I like to drink a carbonated drink (coke) and let out a bletch now and then
 
 5) I also like to eat tunafish on white toast while on board. (I don't know why but it makes me feel better)  (My uncle use to like sardines and onion on pumpernickle but I could not go for it.)
 
 6) Stay away from exhaust fumes.  Esp diesel.  You can get sick just from them.
 
 7) Boats have a point about which they pitch, for most it is near amidships...find it and park yourself there.  Avoid bow and stern.
 
 8) Breath fresh air
 
 9) avoid enclosed places
 
 10) focus on the horizon
 
 11) use those sea-legs
 
 12) If you feel crappy try and go to sleep.  (find a bunk near amidships...I use to crash on the flying bridge as a kid)
 
 13) Don't volenteer to chum
 
 14) If you smoke pot and you feel sick, this is a good time to do that (pot is (sometimes) given to cancer patients to handle vomiting from the Chemo drugs.) Consult your doctor...
 
 15) Don't drink adult beverages while on board.
 
 16) Keep your head out of the bildge (that is how I got sick... during a shark tourn.  30 miles off shore, the #1 bildge pump crapped out.  Trying to repair it I had my head in there for about 30 minutes and it was really rough and I got pretty sick.)
 
 17) take a dump prior to leaving the dock.
 
 I also think that when it gets REALLY rough...fear takes over and you don't feel so sick anymore.
 
 Thats all that come to mind now...  or you could take up golf!
 
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		|  04-15-2003, 10:59 AM | #21 |  
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		| If you smoke pot and you feel sick, this is a good time to do that ... |  I feel sick right now !!!     
Guess I'll just take an aspirin...   
Heard a story about a couple of guys out fishing after a bad night of partying. 
Guy #1 is losing everything including the pineapple dish from his last meal. 
Guy #2 is into some nice fish, and when he brings it to the boat the fish yaks up.....YES you guessed it...pineapple.....
 
WOW this fish is throw'n up your throwup MAN........
 
Could be true or BS, but its funny either way....
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		|  04-15-2003, 11:22 AM | #22 |  
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		| Originally posted by bloocrab Fishing at it's Best!!.....eh weewee
   |  Bloo - last time I felt that way was when I was in school...when I ended up in the hospital for alcohol poisoning.    |  
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		|  04-15-2003, 11:23 AM | #23 |  
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				 | Guess I am lucky because I have never been sea sick! In fact I have the complete opposite of that problem.....I find it very soothing and it makes me wanna sleep! (NOT that Ive ever done that or anything!!!     ) |  
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		|  04-15-2003, 11:27 AM | #24 |  
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 Jenn I was the same way. 
For years, I never had a problem.  In fact, I used to poke fun at other guys who would get sick on boats.
 
Then ... boom!  One outing and I was begging for shore.    |  
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		|  04-15-2003, 11:35 AM | #25 |  
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				 | oh GREAT....CURSED by the wee man!    |  
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		|  04-15-2003, 11:39 AM | #26 |  
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 Jenn- 
Remember Murphy's Law.
 
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		|  04-15-2003, 01:10 PM | #27 |  
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				 | Definitely saty outside. going below to sit or lie down cause you start to feel bad is a sure thing to get you sick.
 Take the Bonine ,dramamine , etc about 2 hours before
 
 Bring crunchy foods like carrat sticks , apples , peanuts. Anything that you have to crunch to chew. Supposedly the crunching vibrates the inner ear and helps keep away the sickness.  Bring extra fluids just in case you do get sick. Its good to have something you can barf up instaed of the dry heaves. Also , you ned to stay hydrated if you do start barfing so bring the fluids.
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		|  04-15-2003, 02:05 PM | #28 |  
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				 | I've only been seasick once in my life---result of a very rich dinner the previous evening and sitting in a small cramped cabin where some old-timer was smoking a pipe.
 I heaved the dinner over the rail, sat outside the rest of the ride out, and everything was fine the rest of the day. Even tho we were rolling on 6-8 foot swells at anchor on the cod grounds.
 
 Get out of the cabin and onto the deck at all costs--even on those January cod trips. Dress warm and stand in the lee of the cabin at the stern, and the cold won't be so bad.
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		|  04-15-2003, 02:41 PM | #29 |  
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				 | wow, so many advices here... i'm starting to feel a little more confident on going on a boat trip this saturday and this summer.  
bloocrab- that's exactly what im talking about! some party boats like captains fishin, tend to cook greasy breakfast and lunch meals and i dont understand why they have to cook those on a trip. and that what makes me sick. and also i ate a little of them. i don't normally tend to eat before getting aboard and cruising to the sea. 
 
sandman- i liked your list of tips. smoking pot? it's illegal to bring it on the boat, but unless i can get a doctor note and bring it to the captain's fishing and show them my slip and they can do anythign about it. is it possible for me to do that?     but i don't think it will be allowed. 
 
fishweewee- lol, that was funny. u used to poke at some guys who get sick on the boat... i used to poke at my mom for getting motion sickness. but i stopped doing that for a couple years.
 
these advices were very helpful, except for the sardines and tuna sandwiches, they make me feel a little quasy now. i cannot wait to follow them.
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		|  04-15-2003, 03:01 PM | #30 |  
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				 | havent gotten really seasick before, maybe a little where you better look at the horizon or theres going to be a problem. nothing serious like puking. ive been on a boat before where we had to turn around cause they though a guy was gonig to die he was so sick. i sort of make it my duty to not be him.
 dont drink milk!!! ive seen that way to many times. ive heard the aww geeze i shouldnt have drunk that 1/2 gallon milk shake this morning a few times.
 
 dont look at the wake or stare at that mezmorizing bow wave. youll be gone in a few seconds that way.
 
 stay outside, find an uncrowded place to stand away from groups of people.
 
 sleep, diesal engines will lul you to sleep, if your hardcore and get up at 430 to get to the stern or bow this wont be a problem.
 
 eat, not eating will lower your blood sugar really bad and youll get sick wicked fast. bacon+egg+english muffin+ the old lady on the boat's cooking skills= me happy
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