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12-21-2009, 10:47 PM
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#241
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Swamp yankee's curse
If it's free, it's for me!
Time to invest in a belt/disc combo Numbskull. Short money, and very handy.
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12-22-2009, 08:53 AM
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#242
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cumberland, RI
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Originally Posted by numbskull
Nah, I do it on the bandsaw about the same as you, only I use the same pinned cradle I use to mark the layout lines. It is the belt sander where I screw 'em up. That is the step I'd love to eliminate. I hate belt sanders, probably I should get a rotary one I can sight down from above with.
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I used to use the bandsaw/belt sander. There is a MUCH better way. Jigs and the table saw. Jigs make up VERY quickly and make cutting the slopes EXTREMELY easy and VERY consistant. All I use the BS for is easing the angle between slopes. |
Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement -- Keith Benning
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12-22-2009, 10:07 AM
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#243
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Fork
Posts: 2,260
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Originally Posted by numbskull
Mine is an old, old, old Sears thing with 8" by 36" (or something like that) platen and worn bronze bearings. The price was right, free. Been paying for it ever since.
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George i have literally tons of all kinds of bronze and other types of bushing making materials.If you need some made let me know i would be glad to manufacture them for you. |
Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-25-2009, 08:31 PM
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#244
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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I went out the the harbor which was the only open water and tested a NCG setup on a 1201L and swam my version of the Atom 54B. I was impress all around. The rod casted great with the concept set up , 30,20,12,8,8,8,8,8,10tip. The Atom 54B was the other homerun. Swam down just under <1', wiggle ever so nicely. used 2/0 treble on the belly w/pennant on tail. Very nice S wiggle. Thanks for all your help George. By the way I put 11gram tailweight thru the wire. I cut a 7 gram in half and put the half and a whole one into a 17/64" hole up to the swivel hole shy of going inside the hook hole 1/16". Filled the void w/ wooden spacer. Got to get some of the roll plastic Prof. M has.
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12-26-2009, 12:19 PM
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#245
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Fork
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-26-2009, 12:31 PM
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#246
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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See you guys in the am??  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!! 
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12-26-2009, 12:40 PM
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#247
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Fork
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I hope i don't stay up to late plan on taking my wife to dinner and then to see Avatar as she did not want anything to do with seeing it when she first saw the previews and now she wants me to take her.I am glad because now i get to go to a new imax they just opened and heard good things about it.Not busting your chops Larry but i will give you my honest opinion after i see it.I also need to take pics of my paint shaker for you guys which works great btw.I had paint just sitting here for over a year (createx) all the paint on the bottom and the clear separeted on top like oil and vinegar took 30 sec to get it mixed.See you in the morning.
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Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-26-2009, 12:45 PM
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#248
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
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Originally Posted by BigFish
See you guys in the am?? |
I'll be here. This was a great idea,btw, Larry. |
He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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12-26-2009, 06:20 PM
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#249
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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Be there w/ 8o'clock coffee. Hey Lou, I have been putting in a ballbearing roller in all my paint bottles. Shake it, the ball rattles and continue till mixed. so far so good.
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Billy D.
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12-26-2009, 06:36 PM
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#250
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Registered Grandpa
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: east coast
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Originally Posted by Karl F
never say never Larry.. and i'm freaking bull-headed...but i converted.. i'm drinking the hydro now..  |
Never,ever thought i would hear that. 
"The End" must be near.  |
" Choose Life "
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12-26-2009, 07:36 PM
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#251
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Fork
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Originally Posted by pbadad
Be there w/ 8o'clock coffee. Hey Lou, I have been putting in a ballbearing roller in all my paint bottles. Shake it, the ball rattles and continue till mixed. so far so good.
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Yes that works great. |
Originally Posted by Flaptail
"Throw plugs like we do that will cause them to suffer humility. Pogies make any fisherman look good when bass are around. Bait is easy."
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12-26-2009, 08:43 PM
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#252
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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Originally Posted by eastendlu
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Yes, I've known about that one for awhile. 10 1/2" and 4oz. Very doable, but I went with the BM/Pichney version last winter and barely fished them (beetch to carry). Found a picture of a Musso Eely this afternoon, however, a plug I never knew existed and one Back Beach asked me about just a week ago......2 hours later I think I've got something close. Don't have an original, but I've spent so much time copying his stuff I feel pretty confident I know how he would have gone about it. We'll see. |
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12-27-2009, 07:31 AM
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#253
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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Originally Posted by justplugit
Never,ever thought i would hear that.
"The End" must be near. |
2012 is the new beginning ....not the END
i like hydro Karl .....much better than Booze. |
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12-27-2009, 08:13 AM
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#254
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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Good Morning, anyone home?
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Billy D.
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12-27-2009, 08:21 AM
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#255
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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good morning .. I winged this eely last year .. pikie 3 lip I think .. small tail weight .. I got a couple of fish on it .. I'm mainly throwing needles ,pp or spooks .. I like this plug though . Cast ok .. more interresting profile ..
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12-27-2009, 08:23 AM
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#256
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
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forgot pic ...  |
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12-27-2009, 08:35 AM
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#257
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
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Nice!
Haven't done anything this weekend but entertain. So I'll try to pay attention and learn something this AM.
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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12-27-2009, 08:43 AM
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#258
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Good morning! Got your coffee? I thought this morning, with the passing of lure building legend Bob Pond, we could honor his legacy in lure building a bit and maybe post some pics of any vintage Bob Pond/Atom creations if any of us own some or even some copies and talk about Bob and share some stories if we have any along with the usual chatter this am?  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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12-27-2009, 08:44 AM
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#259
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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Good mornin'. I'm here, but should be drilling. Got church in an hour, not all that religious but whatever.
As for a topic for today....how about lips. These things drive me crazy. So many guys make "copies" that are not true to the original. Sure if you build your own thing using the lip as the base you can do OK, but if you want to copy something old you are out of luck.
There are good Lefty (actually Musso) lips available.
Salty's conrad lip is perfect.
The large Pikie lip is great.........but one with a mid slot hole would be greater yet for us guys who like surface swimmers.
Perfect surfster lips are available.
Nobody makes an accurate mid or small danny lip. The medium danny lips available are wider, longer, and with a slightly higher hole than the lips that are used on medium Pichney, Lupo, BM surface swimmer.....which are as perfect a bass lure as you can find.
There is no match for the large conrad, or the BM cowboy/ Bm version A40.
Yeah, yeah......I know if you are doing your own thing you can use what is out there and be happy. But a lot of us enjoy copying and fishing stuff that is no longer available. Yes, for any one or two, or six plugs you can cut your own lips....but if you want to make multiples you are out of luck.
So how do I go about making my own dies?
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12-27-2009, 08:55 AM
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#260
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I remember meeting Bob Pond and his wife Avis at RISSA a few years ago when John Habs brought them to the show (which I thought was nice of John) and so many got to meet Bob and his wife and shake his hand and thank him for all he did! I know I did! They were both very pleasant people at the show. Unfortunately I do not own any of his fine work??  Maybe Capesams or Vineyard Blues will post some of their great collections at some point? I hope so!
Numby I use NJ's lefty lips on my small Danny's.....they work pretty great! |
Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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12-27-2009, 08:56 AM
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#261
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
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Not sure Numby whats involved for cost .. Zappa clone probably knows ,, GRS makes his own lips .
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12-27-2009, 08:57 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Hi all
good idea Larry
but I have to run along myself so no time for me to do any pics, gotta get to the game. see ya later
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12-27-2009, 09:11 AM
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#263
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I have not gone much further on my Nike's? I need to turn some more and start getting some done for PlugFest! |
Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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12-27-2009, 09:14 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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here ya go Larry ... This is all i have .. The flatter nose 40's were trailer made along the bank of the CC Canal ,, I believe close to where BSP is now .. The more refined round nose 40 was made in Attleboro shop . I don't have (looking for) a trolling model wich is visaully straighter shaped on the tail ,,wich is tail weighted ,,. I stole the Jr. for 50 of epay .. It always puzzled me these early 4 yrs. of Atom wood went so cheap on epay ..9.99 - 19.99 .. unless it was mint in the box .. see what happens now ,, Pleez correct me if any of the above untrue ... all word of mouth .. God Bless Bob Pond ..
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12-27-2009, 09:20 AM
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#265
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
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Thanks for sharing those Ed! Very nice examples!  |
Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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12-27-2009, 09:22 AM
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#266
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: North Branford,Ct.
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Here are some old A-40's from the late 50's w/ a couple of my repros and some early 70's A-jrs & the plastic version A54B(blk) with 2 copies of the jr & 54B. We can't forget the infamous Atom blue/white popper.I think everyone I know had one in their bag or boat growing up.
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Billy D.
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12-27-2009, 09:26 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
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Originally Posted by BigFish
Thanks for sharing those Ed! Very nice examples! |
Yea Larry .. never had them all together .. now that I see the pic and just checked plug ,,I believe the top one is the Troller ,, fatter and straighter line on the arse .. not sure ,,, weighs 2.9 ... others 2.7 ,2.4.. Could just be wood weight inconsistent .. |
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12-27-2009, 09:29 AM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Yeah I noticed the difference in the taper of the tail? You may be correct!
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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12-27-2009, 09:34 AM
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#269
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Buxton, Maine
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Hi Larry,Wish I could figure out the prob with gettin pics up here. I've got so much of Bob's stuff that it's crazy.Was a very good freind and a great teacher. Kinda sucks him bein gone.He's the one that got me into plug fishing as a kid up here in Maine back in the 60's
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12-27-2009, 09:39 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Buxton, Maine
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Out of curiosity how'd you find out about his passing. Ron
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