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11-12-2009, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
One last question for BW:
Where did I come close to defending him?
I repeatedly said all I disagree with this being 'terrorism' and was more likely a mass murder, rampage type event by a nut job. More and more likely since he seems to have been deemed psychotic by his colleagues, who did nothing but pass the buck since he was being transferred out of Walter Reed.
Never in any of the above did I think he doesn't deserve to be punished. Period. I just think keeping him alive at Leavenworth is more punishment than the death penalty.
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How is terrorism and what you call "mass murder" and the death 13 American soldiers different?A religious muslim fanatic ended the lives of 13 good Americans.That's terror at its best.
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11-12-2009, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by basswipe
How is terrorism and what you call "mass murder" and the death 13 American soldiers different?A religious muslim fanatic ended the lives of 13 good Americans.That's terror at its best.
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I guess if you view violence by Muslims always as "terrorism" you'd have a point.
It's interesting how in many of these threads people are actually going out of their way to stress the word "terrorist" like some also stress the "Hussein" when speaking about the President.
It's almost like some are wishing he's a terrorist just to prove some point.
What point?
That Muslims are all terrorists?
I'm thinking that might just be the point.
-spence
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11-12-2009, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I guess if you view violence by Muslims always as "terrorism" you'd have a point.
It's interesting how in many of these threads people are actually going out of their way to stress the word "terrorist" like some also stress the "Hussein" when speaking about the President.
It's almost like some are wishing he's a terrorist just to prove some point.
What point?
That Muslims are all terrorists?
I'm thinking that might just be the point.
-spence
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There's no point to be made, just ignorance. asswipe has already made it clear the reason he holds this opinion isn't because of actual evidence, but because of the Armenian Genocide committed almost 100 years ago. I'm still sensitive about my Irish relatives dying during the Great Famine 150 years ago - which is why I don't allow potatoes in my house.
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11-12-2009, 08:32 PM
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I don't allow potatoes in my house.
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Not even potato chips? What about Guinness - is that banned also? Take away the potatoes and the Guinness and you're down the just the Jameson food group.
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11-12-2009, 09:09 PM
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Not even potato chips? What about Guinness - is that banned also? Take away the potatoes and the Guinness and you're down the just the Jameson food group.
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Guinness is a staple in my house... and after 4 years, my girlfriend has finally started to understand when I ask "Do you have Guinness on tap?" why I then order a different beer if the response is "I'm sorry, but we have it in the bottle."
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11-13-2009, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
I guess if you view violence by Muslims always as "terrorism" you'd have a point.
It's interesting how in many of these threads people are actually going out of their way to stress the word "terrorist" like some also stress the "Hussein" when speaking about the President.
It's almost like some are wishing he's a terrorist just to prove some point.
What point?
That Muslims are all terrorists?
I'm thinking that might just be the point.
-spence
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Avoiding to describe this as potential terrorism just might get people killed. If you don't think Obama is also investigating this as a potential terrorist attack then I hope your wrong, for your kids sake. Even I have more faith in Obama then that.
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11-13-2009, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
Avoiding to describe this as potential terrorism just might get people killed. If you don't think Obama is also investigating this as a potential terrorist attack then I hope your wrong, for your kids sake. Even I have more faith in Obama then that.
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I think the military police are smart enough to conduct an investigation without biasing it one way or the other.
-spence
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11-13-2009, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
I guess if you view violence by Muslims always as "terrorism" you'd have a point.
What point?
That Muslims are all terrorists?
I'm thinking that might just be the point.
-spence
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You really say some pretty stupid things.
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11-13-2009, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by buckman
You really say some pretty stupid things.
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How so? That people let stereotypes and bigotry pollute their thinking?
That's stupid?
-spence
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11-13-2009, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by spence
How so? That people let stereotypes and bigotry pollute their thinking?
That's stupid?
-spence
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you should include yourself....
I guess if you view violence by Muslims always as "terrorism" you'd have a point.
It's interesting how in many of these threads people are actually going out of their way to stress the word "terrorist" like some also stress the "Hussein" when speaking about the President.
It's almost like some are wishing he's a terrorist just to prove some point.
What point?
That Muslims are all terrorists?
I'm thinking that might just be the point.
-spence
interesting how many on the left are desperate to claim that this is not terrorism and remarkable to watch the contortions...to the extent that Brian Williams proclaimed last night that " the military will not charge Hasan with terrorism" and then softly followed with the fact that the military actually has no charge for terrorism with which to charge him....but the emphasis was obvious and a bald faced liar made his point...fear of some anti-muslim backlash is overriding any other concern...
Spence, let's do this...let's pile up all of the bodies of the victims of the imagined anti-muslim backlash by radical right wing extremists...or anyone else for that matter since 9/11...there should be a lot because there's are a whole lot of bigotry and stereotyping out there ...big population of angry non-muslims vs. muslims, probably thousand of victims right?....and then let's pile up the bodies of the victims of muslim extremists during the same period....clearly, the first reaction of this administration post big bomb going off in a major city will be to schedule an anti-muslim backlash summit...your suggestion that some here some would like this to be terrorism to justify some belief that all muslims are terrorists is a despicable as anything I've ever heard.....only a fool would or should suggest that from either side...to impune those that view this as a terrorist act given the reality of the last what?...20 + years???....is to mock common sense...
keep rolling though...you continue expose youself as a fool
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11-13-2009, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
your suggestion that some here some would like this to be terrorism to justify some belief that all muslims are terrorists is a despicable as anything I've ever heard.....only a fool would or should suggest that from either side...to impune those that view this as a terrorist act given the reality of the last what?...20 + years???....is to mock common sense...
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Actually, Asswipe made it quite clear that his motivation for assuming this was terrorism is because of a deep seated disdain for Muslims due to the Armenian Genocide. That's what spence is referencing when he states "I guess if you view violence by Muslims always as "terrorism" you'd have a point.".
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11-13-2009, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Actually, Asswipe made it quite clear that his motivation for assuming this was terrorism is because of a deep seated disdain for Muslims due to the Armenian Genocide. That's what spence is referencing when he states "I guess if you view violence by Muslims always as "terrorism" you'd have a point.".
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actually, you are only referring to the first sentence...I was referring to the rest....they are separate...
It's interesting how in many of these threads people are actually going out of their way to stress the word "terrorist" like some also stress the "Hussein" when speaking about the President.
It's almost like some are wishing he's a terrorist just to prove some point.
What point?
That Muslims are all terrorists?
I'm thinking that might just be the point.
-spence
quite a conclusion
Last edited by scottw; 11-13-2009 at 01:11 PM..
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11-21-2009, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
you should include yourself....
I guess if you view violence by Muslims always as "terrorism" you'd have a point.
It's interesting how in many of these threads people are actually going out of their way to stress the word "terrorist" like some also stress the "Hussein" when speaking about the President.
It's almost like some are wishing he's a terrorist just to prove some point.
What point?
That Muslims are all terrorists?
I'm thinking that might just be the point.
-spence
interesting how many on the left are desperate to claim that this is not terrorism and remarkable to watch the contortions...to the extent that Brian Williams proclaimed last night that " the military will not charge Hasan with terrorism" and then softly followed with the fact that the military actually has no charge for terrorism with which to charge him....but the emphasis was obvious and a bald faced liar made his point...fear of some anti-muslim backlash is overriding any other concern...
Spence, let's do this...let's pile up all of the bodies of the victims of the imagined anti-muslim backlash by radical right wing extremists...or anyone else for that matter since 9/11...there should be a lot because there's are a whole lot of bigotry and stereotyping out there ...big population of angry non-muslims vs. muslims, probably thousand of victims right?....and then let's pile up the bodies of the victims of muslim extremists during the same period....clearly, the first reaction of this administration post big bomb going off in a major city will be to schedule an anti-muslim backlash summit...your suggestion that some here some would like this to be terrorism to justify some belief that all muslims are terrorists is a despicable as anything I've ever heard.....only a fool would or should suggest that from either side...to impune those that view this as a terrorist act given the reality of the last what?...20 + years???....is to mock common sense...
keep rolling though...you continue expose youself as a fool
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I didn't see this one before...must have been on the road
I you need to twist my words to make me a fool, then perhaps that should tell you something about yourself.
-spence
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11-13-2009, 08:59 AM
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Here is a stupid thing to say,
All Muslims should be treated as Terrorist until proven other wise.
My mind is not polluted.  , that's just good beer.
I'm not a bigot, I can care less about anothers creed.
When you have a group that will kill their children(women) because that family felt dishonored then that group should be watched.
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11-13-2009, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
How so? That people let stereotypes and bigotry pollute their thinking?
That's stupid?
-spence
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No one said any such thing!!!!. My hunting buddy is a Muslim, head of a Muslim school as a matter of fact. I have NO fear of Muslims.
I do have a fear of Islamic extremist. And you should too.
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11-13-2009, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman
No one said any such thing!!!!. My hunting buddy is a Muslim, head of a Muslim school as a matter of fact. I have NO fear of Muslims.
I do have a fear of Islamic extremist. And you should too.
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last bastion of a fool...
cmon' Buck, you should know the routine by now, it always ends up in a charge or racism, bigotry, ignorance...you could be married to a muslim and you'd still be a racist....I listened to a lilly white liberal(self described)guy on sports radio recently sit with a black guy and pontificate on what was racist toward blacks and what was not...the black guy kept saying "I don't see racism in that" and lilly white guy kept saying "that is absolutelly racist"....never get between a radical liberal extremist and a charge of racism or bigotry because he will be going a hundred miles an hour to get there....
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11-13-2009, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
last bastion of a fool...
cmon' Buck, you should know the routine by now, it always ends up in a charge or racism, bigotry, ignorance...you could be married to a muslim and you'd still be a racist....I listened to a lilly white liberal(self described)guy on sports radio recently sit with a black guy and pontificate on what was racist toward blacks and what was not...the black guy kept saying "I don't see racism in that" and lilly white guy kept saying "that is absolutelly racist"....never get between a radical liberal extremist and a charge of racism or bigotry because he will be going a hundred miles an hour to get there....
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You make it sound like they think all Republicans are "religous zealots" 
I would like to know when the Dems became the self proclaimed party for minorities, they didn't start out that way... Hmmm I wonder when that was.....  ( that's a hand out  )
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