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[buckman]

I believe over 50% oppose National Health Care.....Is this the fringe everybody is refering to?

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...lls_to_new_low

[scottw]

Originally Posted by buckman

I believe over 50% oppose National Health Care.....Is this the fringe everybody is refering to?

wow Buck!, that an awful lotta Racists, Bigots, Stalinists, Terrorists, Nazis, Astroturf Mob Members...something should be done about these people...

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by scottw

wow Buck!, that an awful lotta Racists, Bigots, Stalinists, Terrorists, Nazis, Astroturf Mob Members...something should be done about these people...

You forgot the Gun/Bible clingers.

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

You forgot the Gun/Bible clingers.

While that was a really dumb thing for Obama to say, he was pretty much nuts on

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by justplugit
You forgot the Gun/Bible clingers

Originally Posted by spence

While that was a really dumb thing for Obama to say, he was pretty much nuts on

-spence

Originally Posted by spence
I think there's a big difference between the tune from either sides...

Conservatives tend to attack Liberals for who they are.

Liberals tend to attack Conservatives for what they do.

-spence

was this an attack on conservatives and/or Chrisitians for "who they are"(people of faith that believe in the Constitution)? an attack on same for "what they do"(cling to guns and bibles in Obama's delusional words/opinion)?

seems to me Obama is a "Christian" who never goes to church(except for a photo op, and after being a "member"(in quotes because he claims never to have heard anything so maybe he never went then either) of a hate church for 20 years), is that the RIGHT or ACCEPTED kind of Christian in the world of the liberal progressive? one who has faith as a matter of political convenience?...... the ONE that professes to be a man of faith when it's politically advantageous but attacks those that actually live their faith and believe in traditional American values....if you watch the Dems. closely, they only talk about faith when the polls tell them that it 's needed, Pelosi was on a kick a while back when she realized that the dems were losing the "values" voters, these are trasparent frauds that will hijack anything for political advantage and they expose themselves when they think they are in a "safe" environment among like thinkers...it was a "dumb" thing for him to say because it again exposed him for who he really is........

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

was this an attack on conservatives and/or Chrisitians for "who they are"(people of faith that believe in the Constitution)? an attack on same for "what they do"(cling to guns and bibles in Obama's delusional words/opinion)?

Obama wasn't commenting on conservatives in general, and he was commenting about some people's behavior. It wasn't that belief in God or gun rights is bad, but when a person clings to a single wedge issue at the expense of all others, that it can be shortsighted in the grand scheme of things...

Nice try.

-spence

[scottw]

“You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them,” Obama said. “And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

that's not at all what he said, he made/assumed an unsubstantiated generalization, kinda like you tend to do... you should stop trying to tell us what Obama means when he speaks, you are usually quite wrong...".a person clings to a single wedge issue at the expense of all others"...where does he say this???...what he says is they become bitter racists and bigots to "explain their frustrations".....this is not a fact that he states ..although he states it as fact ...this is the warped, belittling and condescending opinion of an arrogant a-hole who was trying to curry favor among other political elites, he does this a lot...."typical white person"

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

It wasn't that belief in God or gun rights is bad, but when a person clings to a single wedge issue at the expense of all others, that it can be shortsighted in the grand scheme of things.

-spence

Would you then consider anyone clinging to the HC Bill, when it is for less than 10% of the population,
and will be at the expense and affect the HC of all others, shortsighted in the grand scheme of things?
After all, 80% of the American people like their HC.

Let's fix it within our current programs, no need to upset the whole apple cart.