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05-20-2009, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
then they wont sell. The challenge is to make a car people want and gets good mileage. A honda civic wont pull my boat.
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You'll still be able to get that SUV or truck, it's just going to cost you a premium to pull the boat. It is a luxury item anyway is it not?
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05-20-2009, 07:11 AM
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So because someone deems it a luxury item, I have to pay more? Who gets to decide what's a luxury and what's not. To most of us with boats, it's a necessity.
The truck is definitely a necessity.
I think all these cute little Toyota Prias' are luxury items....
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05-20-2009, 07:45 AM
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sick of bluefish
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Originally Posted by spence
You'll still be able to get that SUV or truck, it's just going to cost you a premium to pull the boat. It is a luxury item anyway is it not?
-spence
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not sure if you shop around at all, but dont i already pay a premium? Compare a pathfinder to a sentra, a 4 runner to a camry. tens of thousands more. supply/demand should drive what I pay, not the government. didnt you post you have an audi? sounds like a luxury item to me, a yugo will be just fine for you comrade. |
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05-20-2009, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
not sure if you shop around at all, but dont i already pay a premium? Compare a pathfinder to a sentra, a 4 runner to a camry. tens of thousands more. supply/demand should drive what I pay, not the government. didnt you post you have an audi? sounds like a luxury item to me, a yugo will be just fine for you comrade.
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Hasn't that freedom from supply/demand simply drained trillions in wealth from the US to enrich the Gulf States?
Sounds like more efficient cars would be a good thing.
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05-20-2009, 09:54 AM
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sick of bluefish
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Originally Posted by spence
Hasn't that freedom from supply/demand simply drained trillions in wealth from the US to enrich the Gulf States?
Sounds like more efficient cars would be a good thing.
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im not arguing against more efficient cars. My point is that in order to be successful, they need to be the type of cars americans want to drive. I've seen hybrid yukons and other big trucks, so we can do it. Im SURE THE JAPANESE can and will do it. Will the american car compansies continue to produce duds that no one wants to buy. but they'll be fuel efficient? Success will be dtermined by fuel efficinency and market need |
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05-20-2009, 11:12 AM
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Keep The Change
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Jimmy, the OBOTS will never understand... To make this thing work there needs to be some incentive on the demand side, you just can't heap the responsiblility onto the producers.  |
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05-20-2009, 12:54 PM
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Jimmy, the OBOTS will never understand... To make this thing work there needs to be some incentive on the demand side, you just can't heap the responsiblility onto the producers. |
Paying 25% less in fuel costs isn't an incentive?
A tax benefit provided by many states for people buying a hybrid is not an incentive?
Did the large increase in demand for hybrids coincidentally coincide exactly with a massive increase in gas prices, and then demand decrease as prices at the pump decreased?
Let's not forget that while we may not see $4 at the pump this summer, when inflation skyrockets over the next year or two and the price of oil climbs ridiculously again, $5/gallon will become a very real possibility.
Seems like you're the one that doesn't understand. |
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05-20-2009, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Paying 25% less in fuel costs isn't an incentive?
A tax benefit provided by many states for people buying a hybrid is not an incentive?
Did the large increase in demand for hybrids coincidentally coincide exactly with a massive increase in gas prices, and then demand decrease as prices at the pump decreased?
Let's not forget that while we may not see $4 at the pump this summer, when inflation skyrockets over the next year or two and the price of oil climbs ridiculously again, $5/gallon will become a very real possibility.
Seems like you're the one that doesn't understand.
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Johnny, are you saying that the government should try to bully people into buying cars they don't want because of tax incentives? If the car companies made a car I liked in a hybrid, I'd consider it. But at this point, there isn't a hybrid that suits my wants/needs. |
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