Dave Andersons Article in the fisherman.. - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

PNG · 01-30-2009, 03:40 PM

Good read but will they hear it?

Shoulda been in the front of the mag.

Crafty Angler · 01-30-2009, 04:29 PM

Ahhh....he's startin' to sound like an old faht, kids today and all that stuff -

Well, that's what he gets for hangin' around here, I guess...

Canalman · 01-30-2009, 07:16 PM

Thanks... I'm glad that it seems that everyone has read it the way it was intended. My boss was a little upset about it today

when he read it AFTER it went to print.

RIROCKHOUND · 01-31-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Canalman

Thanks... I'm glad that it seems that everyone has read it the way it was intended. My boss was a little upset about it today

when he read it AFTER it went to print.

Keep sticking it to the man Dave. You KNOW I like it when you go around the boss to get something in print

Rockport24 · 01-31-2009, 07:25 PM

good stuff indeed! I love to see editors speak their mind like that, and I'm glad you did!

Crafty Angler · 02-01-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Crafty Angler

Ahhh....he's startin' to sound like an old faht, kids today and all that stuff -

Well, that's what he gets for hangin' around here, I guess...

Hey, Dave, like I told ya yesterday, I was busting ya -

It was a well-written piece and dead on the nuts - it's just another consequence of what happens in the information age - the internet has considerably shortened the learning curve for a lot of the younger guys gleaning information from more experienced surfcasters.

On the other hand there are also some of the newer guys who are putting in their time and paying their dues and respect the old guard for the price they paid. If they're going to be successful they still have to do it the old fashioned way - they have to earn it.

Maybe it's the lack of respect? Well, no one really respects what they get for free. Or probably just another example of what has become a less civil society in general -

Ultimately I think it's just the cyber version of the old bait-shop bull**** ya used to hear back in the day - after a while, whether it was in a real bait-shop back then or on the internet today, it becomes evident after a while as to who's talking out of their paper hat regardless of what gear they have and today it's just easier to do behind the anonymity of a screen name.

The insert of conservation was just as important, I thought - after a while you get to the point where taking a fish for the table to feed your family or friends is one thing - and taking a fish to feed your ego is another.

Christ, now I'm starting to sound like an old phart...

NIB · 02-01-2009, 09:33 AM

Dave,
Awesome article.I could not have said it any better myself.Well maybe I could but you could not print it..

This whole fast food fishing society of fisherman who have to have instant results with little input makes me want to puke..
This one article was worth the price of the yearly subscription.IMO..I will be glad to re-up again next year..
Thank You.

Tony.

fishgolf · 02-01-2009, 09:38 AM

Haven't read the article yet.
But from posts, it sounds similar to a theme written about in Newsweek (Jan 12th ed.) concerning the taking of trophy game and the unintended affect of weakening the gene pool by leaving less fit animals to continue the line.
Interesting article.
df

NIB · 02-01-2009, 09:59 AM

Here is something I posted somewheres else.Too much time on my hands and caffiene...It's more about fishing in NJ.The new breed, the one hit hero and his minions.

Just when I thought I was done they suck me back in.

While I do consider myself the last bastion against stupid.It's getting harder and harder to stem the tide.
In this new fast food world of surfcasting there has to be results.Our fishery in the spring has done just that.It has also spawned a new breed of big bass men..These new anglers with chest's pumped out have no idea of what our sport is really all about.As "personal bests" fall every minute.The lack difficulty or skill means nothing.They are the new kings.They also think what happens in the spring as far as etiquette is the status quo for the rest of the seasons.I run into these types all the time while sipping a coffee.
"See any bait"."Whats your biggest bass..??"
IMO it has diminished our great sport to that of a video game.
Snag and Drop 2000..
In the mist's of all this a new way of learning has developed.With pics and coverages of the spring runs there is a new king.You can see him three times a week in all the publications.With so many jewels. The fast food anglers flock to him like the pied piper.With dollars in hand they can buy their way to the next big bass.No work involved.Just get a snag hook and get in the network..No body just goes fishing anymore, they need information.With the smallest amount they know just enough to be dangerous.
As they ride the wave it only gets larger.It makes my head want to explode.Not to worry it is my problem. I am the bad guy,The elitist..I was taught this sport under a shroud of secrecy.Now more than ever it is obvious as to why.In a few short months the mongrel horde will be upon us once again stronger that ever..Armed with the off seasons newly learned tactics and 3,000 dollars in gear.They are just enough to be dangerous.I can't wait..
I will fight the good fight.While I have this sad feeling.
There is nothing I can do or say that will make any difference in the end.

Slipknot · 02-01-2009, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NIB

Dave,
Awesome article.I could not have said it any better myself.Well maybe I could but you could not print it..

This whole fast food fishing society of fisherman who have to have instant results with little input makes me want to puke..
This one article was worth the price of the yearly subscription.IMO..I will be glad to re-up again next year..
Thank You.

Tony.

good, now that you're done reading it, send it to me so I can read it too, i'm too cheap I guess to get a subscription

Rockfish9 · 02-02-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NIB

Dave,
Awesome article.I could not have said it any better myself.Well maybe I could but you could not print it..

This whole fast food fishing society of fisherman who have to have instant results with little input makes me want to puke..
This one article was worth the price of the yearly subscription.IMO..I will be glad to re-up again next year..
Thank You.

Tony.

I agree, I've been getting this mag. for more years than I want to admit.... this is one of the best articles I have ever read, not for the "save the breeders" part, what people do with their fish is none of my buisness, and fodder for a different thread, I myself havent killed a bass in close to 10 years now, my enjoyment from the article comes from the "fact of life" message that has surrounded us on every aspect, including fishing... the only satisfaction I get from it is this, if times get tough, the "give it to me nows" will be fishless, those of us that have learned the ways of the bass will always eek out a few fish...you just cant substiute experience, when the fishing is easy.. everyones and expert.

Canalman · 02-02-2009, 11:04 AM

I'd like to clarify one thing and that is that I would never look down my nose at someone for keeping a big fish. People who keep multiple trophies per season, those are the ones that bug me. I have a few friends that do this and yes I have killed a few big ones and I regret it now.

Catching a trophy is the culmination of all your efforts and hard work as an angler. But now that I've made the change to releasing the big ones, it's much more satisfying than saying "hey look what I caught!"

That was really the point I was trying to make.