Super Surf guides?

[numbskull]

There was a lot about this both here and over on SOL rod forum earlier this winter. Back Beach did some testing of guide systems on 10 ft blanks as well. PM him. I think you'd be happy going 40-25-16-10-10-10-10, or 30-20-12-8-8-8-8-.....unless you plan to use mono. With braid the trick is to get it under control quickly to avoid guide wraps....smaller guides further away are the trick. The rod may not cast further, but it will feel lighter and reduce guide wraps.

[SeaWolf]

billy, the su1201L is a pretty light blank. it's lighter than the gsb1201L. i wouldn't throw more than 2 ounces personally with this rod, even tho the blank is rated up to 3 ounces. lami doesnt offer a production rod on this blank yet as far as i know. i'm not sure how heavy you were planning on throwing w/ this rod.

as far as guides, again, it depends on what you want it to do, how you fish as far as leaders and line, and which blank you settle on. if you still want the SSU-L model, i'd even consider single foot running guides to keep the tip weight light for a quicker recovery. with a vs 200, you can start with a 400 or even a 30mm if you plan on using braid. depending on the # test you use also will help in selecting a catch guide.

the bsvag are not concept guides as we know it. they are essentially the standard framed guides found on most rod today, the bsvlg, but have a thinner frame and use alconite rings, which are an improvement as they are lighter in wieght and thinner rings. you can however, incorporate the NGC into this style of guide by using a guide layout like ones that numbskull suggested. i use size 10 running guides on most of my heavy surf rods i build and sell and never had a problem. using 3 transition guides before the choke guide is what i normally do.

i never understood why some people were always so worried about weeds catching on the rod's tip. personally, i'd much rather have it catch there and pull it off vs have it come thru the tip, thru the running guides, and onto the spool as i reel.

[Brian L]

Originally Posted by numbskull

There was a lot about this both here and over on SOL rod forum earlier this winter. Back Beach did some testing of guide systems on 10 ft blanks as well. PM him. I think you'd be happy going 40-25-16-10-10-10-10, or 30-20-12-8-8-8-8-.....unless you plan to use mono. With braid the trick is to get it under control quickly to avoid guide wraps....smaller guides further away are the trick. The rod may not cast further, but it will feel lighter and reduce guide wraps.

Mike did two of them with the new Fuji guide concept, Numbskull. I've got one of them and he's got the other. Can't recall the size of the guide set ups. Even on a ten footer, the tip weight feels light and the rod balances beautifully overall. Casting? Fuggedaboutit. It flings, and the accuracy is very good, even at long distances. I've loaded mine up and the flex of the blank is nice, with plenty of lifting power. Gotta fish a season with it to get a real good opinion of its overall performance, but I like what I've felt so far.

[Back Beach]

The rods I did are 40-25-16-10-8-8-8-8-tip.

With braid you can definitely go smaller, say 30-20-12-10-8-8-8-8.

I did both the 120M and SSU120MH.

Also did a GSB108M. I'll have it at TFCTFN if any of you guys are going and want to check it out.

[NIB]

Originally Posted by Back Beach

The rods I did are 40-25-16-10-8-8-8-8-tip.

With braid you can definitely go smaller, say 30-20-12-10-8-8-8-8.

I did both the 120M and SSU120MH.

Also did a GSB108M. I'll have it at TFCTFN if any of you guys are going and want to check it out.

Do all those guides help to get ya out of the house to go fishing..

[Back Beach]

Originally Posted by NIB

Do all those guides help to get ya out of the house to go fishing..

Of course they do....I'm even contemplating a Jersey trip this spring..