I thought this was interesting!

[buckman]

You guys are friggin being scammed. Your falling for the oldest trick in the book. Don't watch the people that are porking you. Blame Bush for everything and let the rest ride on blame free.Nancy Pelosy get's off blame free but Newt Gingrich was the most powerfull man in the U.S. Double standards don't play well with me.
Spence, Can you really make the case that the Federal Goverment needs to take more money out of the pockets of hard working people. For the most part rich people work as hard if not harder then most. You don't make 250K or more a year by being lazy and stupid. The goverment has enough of our money and just like you and I, they can do with out if they don't have enough.

If you think that Biden and Obama are going to change things in Washington and they get in, I pray your right. But I feel McCain/Palin are a better bet not to take more money out of our pockets and to make goverment work for the people that pay them. Palin even has the Republicans in Alaska hating her for outing them for bribes from big oil.

Obama has gone from " lowering the taxes for everyone" to "it's the wealthy's patriotic duty to pay more taxes" in less then 2 weeks. We need to have a Republican president just to keep one party from running everything.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

You guys are friggin being scammed. Your falling for the oldest trick in the book. Don't watch the people that are porking you. Blame Bush for everything and let the rest ride on blame free.Nancy Pelosy get's off blame free but Newt Gingrich was the most powerfull man in the U.S. Double standards don't play well with me.

Pelosi isn't getting off of anything, rather than you said the house has done nothing and I showed you wrong.

New is evil by the way.

Spence, Can you really make the case that the Federal Goverment needs to take more money out of the pockets of hard working people. For the most part rich people work as hard if not harder then most. You don't make 250K or more a year by being lazy and stupid. The goverment has enough of our money and just like you and I, they can do with out if they don't have enough.

We have a progressive tax system (i.e. weath redistribution) that has in effect allowed for the Middle Class to rise and make America unique in the world. It's this paradox that the Right can't seem to reconcile behind closed doors.

Personally the tax cut I would see under Obama or McCain is virtually the same. What exactly is the best rate schedule is up for debate, but there's no argument that the top taxpayers have more ability to absorb increased rates. You could also argue that the top taxpayers have been the biggest receipients of stock market gains, and as such should foot a larger part of the burden to socialize our investment banking and mortgage systems as Bush is proposing.

If you think that Biden and Obama are going to change things in Washington and they get in, I pray your right. But I feel McCain/Palin are a better bet not to take more money out of our pockets and to make goverment work for the people that pay them. Palin even has the Republicans in Alaska hating her for outing them for bribes from big oil.

And Palin in Alaska was the ear mark princess while McCain has surrounded himself with an army of lobbyists including his top advisors to guide his campaign.

If it's the Government working for the People that you're after, I wouldn't feel confident in a Palin/McCain ticket.

Obama has gone from " lowering the taxes for everyone" to "it's the wealthy's patriotic duty to pay more taxes" in less then 2 weeks. We need to have a Republican president just to keep one party from running everything.

I think that was a single line were he probably meant to say most everyone. Regardless it's never been stated tax policy, so to say they've changed position is patently false.

-spence

[spence]

Here ya go Buck, McCain's economic insight working for the people...

McCain on banking and health

OK, a correspondent directs me to John McCain’s article, Better Health Care at Lower Cost for Every American, in the Sept./Oct. issue of Contingencies, the magazine of the American Academy of Actuaries. You might want to be seated before reading this.

Here’s what McCain has to say about the wonders of market-based health reform:
Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.

So McCain, who now poses as the scourge of Wall Street, was praising financial deregulation like 10 seconds ago — and promising that if we marketize health care, it will perform as well as the financial industry!

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/19/mccain-on-banking-and-health/

-spence