Victims charged in boat accident.

[Hooper]

Originally Posted by teaser

nowadays ask any 10 people if they think cops are corrupt and you'll get a "yes" response 90% of the time.

Teaser, define "corrupt" for me please. You didn't say that you think 90% of cops are corrupt, so I wonder if you do think that. My opinion, Russell Perdock should serve a very long prison term AND so should anyone involved in a cover-up of the facts.

I think I know cops pretty well, I've been one for almost 15 years in the same PD. I can tell you this, though the guys I work with are my second family, there isn't one guy there who would cover for me if I killed someone in my boat while I was piss drunk. Nor should they. Not every cop is Drew Peterson....

[Swimmer]

It seems to me that everyone who participated in charging the "helmsman" should suffer some level of diciplinary action, not just the prosecutor. Any officer who took part in this coverup doesn't deserve to wear the uniform, and who can't be trusted by the public to make the correct lawful choices.

I am curious what Dinius' ethnicity is?

Teaser there are far fewer "corrupt" cops than you think. It makes great ink to say that 90% are bad, but I need to see you prove it.

[BigBo]

Originally Posted by Hooper

Teaser, define "corrupt" for me please. You didn't say that you think 90% of cops are corrupt, so I wonder if you do think that. My opinion, Russell Perdock should serve a very long prison term AND so should anyone involved in a cover-up of the facts.

I think I know cops pretty well, I've been one for almost 15 years in the same PD. I can tell you this, though the guys I work with are my second family, there isn't one guy there who would cover for me if I killed someone in my boat while I was piss drunk. Nor should they. Not every cop is Drew Peterson....

I tip my hat to you Hooper.

[likwid]

Most cops are out there to help people, and protect people.
Most cops won't give you a hard time if you don't give them a hard time.

In all honesty, the last 3-4 times I've been pulled over in the past couple years I've been polite and walked away with a verbal warning.

Or it was just another cop looking to meet his "performance measures" and looking for drunk drivers and I did something stupid like a rolling stop or not signaling a turn on 4th of July at 11pm. (Both these times I was told to have a good night and to drive safe.)

Do I blame them for it? Nah. If you want to live in the system, you work by the system.

Its that bad few that give the majority a bad name.
Can be guys exploiting the system, green cop with a chip on his shoulder, the idiot sleeping in his patrol car every night, whatever.

They're a minority and unfortunately the way things work with the media and everything else, it makes everyone else look bad.

Yes, that was praising the police from a raging lunatic liberal jack@$$ idiot.

[teaser]

Okay Hooper - I did not say I thought all cops were corrupt but that if 10 people were asked that the answer would not be a positive one for the boys in blue 90% of the time. Do I think cops are corrupt - yes, some are and those are the ones that put that bleak shadow on all cops. I personally know a couple of cops that are on the wrong side of the law and by that I mean they break the law themselves and or turn their head when someone they know is doing it.

Swimmer - I don't think I have to "prove" anything as far as cops being corrupt, what do I have to prove? Nothing ... I made a statement that is true in my neck of the woods and I see it on a daily basis, the badge in the wrong hands is like giving a criminal a get out of jail free card.

Hooper - my defininition of a corrupt cop is as follows: one who turns a blind eye at a crime because they know the person or the family or one who uses his badge for personal gain or influence.

[Swimmer]

Originally Posted by likwid

Most cops are out there to help people, and protect people.
Most cops won't give you a hard time if you don't give them a hard time.

In all honesty, the last 3-4 times I've been pulled over in the past couple years I've been polite and walked away with a verbal warning.

Or it was just another cop looking to meet his "performance measures" and looking for drunk drivers and I did something stupid like a rolling stop or not signaling a turn on 4th of July at 11pm. (Both these times I was told to have a good night and to drive safe.)

Do I blame them for it? Nah. If you want to live in the system, you work by the system.

Its that bad few that give the majority a bad name.
Can be guys exploiting the system, green cop with a chip on his shoulder, the idiot sleeping in his patrol car every night, whatever.

They're a minority and unfortunately the way things work with the media and everything else, it makes everyone else look bad.

Yes, that was praising the police from a raging lunatic liberal jack@$$ idiot.

Thank you........LIKWID

I always said if you want to make friends join the fire department. If you don't care about how many friends you have, become a cop.

TEASER your neck of the woods must be a jungle huh!

I remember a black female joining the New Orleans, Lousaisiana police deprtment years ago being asked why she joined when the starting pay was only $13,000.00 a year, and she replied to Morley Safer, "for the graft, what do you think".

[teaser]

TEASER your neck of the woods must be a jungle huh!


Yep! I grew up in the worst parts of New Bedford and have seen many things that most don't get to see, I can't (by law) even own a gun anymore because of that jungle and the streets there are no better now then they were 35 years ago.

All cops are not bad and I didn't imply that, but with my upbringing and the ones that do cross the line "they" are the ones that cast that shadow on the force. Oh by the way, I do have about 12 friends that are cops now or who have been and I can tell you for sure a couple were corrupt and these were my friends.

[Hooper]

Originally Posted by teaser

TEASER your neck of the woods must be a jungle huh!


Yep! I grew up in the worst parts of New Bedford and have seen many things that most don't get to see, I can't (by law) even own a gun anymore because of that jungle and the streets there are no better now then they were 35 years ago.

All cops are not bad and I didn't imply that, but with my upbringing and the ones that do cross the line "they" are the ones that cast that shadow on the force. Oh by the way, I do have about 12 friends that are cops now or who have been and I can tell you for sure a couple were corrupt and these were my friends.

Here's where I'm coming from Teaser, and thanks for defining corrupt for me, I'll agree with your definition too.

I have worked in a relatively small (70 +/-) guys in a relatively small rural town. It is Non-Civil service meaning this department hires who they want to and fortunately for me, and this town, they hire squared away guys who do the right thing with very few exceptions. We are not bound by "Silly Service" rules telling the town who they have to hire. In that sense it is good, it could work out negatively if the admin wanted to hire their friends' son because he needs a job. Fortunately, they have always hired very qualified people, often officers who want to leave where they are at to come and work for us because of the positive work environment. Thirty of our guys have Master's degree, some have two and we have three who have been to law school and worked as practicing attorney's

So, I'll say this. I am sure your experiences with a huge PD like New Bedford, in a city that has a lot of very serious crimes almost daily, is very different from the world I get to see each day.

I hate like hell to see these videos on YouTube where some badge heavy jerk is mistreating people. It makes my work that much harder. We are human and we all are capable of losing it sometimes, but, I try to treat people well first, even when they may not be at their best moment.

Anyways, sorry to railroad this thread. I do enjoy letting guys here know that not all police are in it for the power. Believe me, I would much rather find a way to solve a problem than write a ticket or arrest someone. Those are last resorts in my mind.

Sorry so long.....