Can She Pull It Out?

[Nebe]

The question is this- Is this country ready to vote for a minority who seems to have the favor of the majority? Or will negativity, fear and pain, pave the way for McCain?

[FishHawk]

Hillary has shown me host nasty and dirty politics can be. I will never vote for her. If she gets it she won't win the election. She's too polarizing. She has destroyed the Democratic party for her own ambitions. She'll do and say anything to get elected. She must be pissed that Obama ran for president. She thought she had a cake walk to the White House.
I'm not sure of McCain. He's caves into the party too much.
FishHawk

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Originally Posted by FishHawk

Hillary has shown me host nasty and dirty politics can be. I will never vote for her. If she gets it she won't win the election. She's too polarizing. She has destroyed the Democratic party for her own ambitions. She'll do and say anything to get elected. She must be pissed that Obama ran for president. She thought she had a cake walk to the White House.

As nasty as the Clinton's can be I don't think they hold a candle to what we've seen from the RNC in the last few election cycles.

Yes, you hear the punditry bemoan moveon.org, Kos and other left wing groups, but the simple fact is that they get very little press coverage and if it wasn't for GOP'ers trying to position them as the voice of the Democratic party most Americans wouldn't even know they existed.

And your analysis of Clinton hurting the Dems has one big flaw. If Hillary can get the nomination I think she stands a real chance of beating McCain, which would make her actions today appear brilliant.

-spence

[afterhours]

right or wrong i just don't see heartland america electing a minority with an islamic name or a woman with her baggage and ties as president. the person (whomever that may be) who would make the best president is too smart to take that job. says here that that mccain wins by default....

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Originally Posted by afterhours

right or wrong i just don't see heartland america electing a minority with an islamic name or a woman with her baggage and ties as president. the person (whomever that may be) who would make the best president is too smart to take that job. says here that that mccain wins by default....

McCain has big problems. The Republican base isn't behind him and he's given the Dems plenty of fodder to go after. Flip flopping on taxes, 100 years in Iraq etc... etc...

Personal tangents like the Rev Wright or Vince Foster are pithy compared to what people really care about.

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

Personal tangents like the Rev Wright or Vince Foster are pithy compared to what people really care about.

-spence

Spence, nothing you have said over the last 4-5 yrs has made me believe you have no clue as much as that last statement.

Jim's prediction - if Obama gets the nomination, he loses at least 40 states to McCain.

And to Nebe's point - the reality will be its because he is a junior senator, with questionable ties to a blatant racist (Wright), and Islamic name in a time of war against radical islam and who has extremly limited experience. But, for Nebe and the left, it will be because he is a minority and we are a racist countrty.

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Spence, nothing you have said over the last 4-5 yrs has made me believe you have no clue as much as that last statement.

Strong words there boy, care to splain yoself?

-spence

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

But, for Nebe and the left, it will be because he is a minority and we are a racist countrty.

I agree. And it is sad. You know and getting to scottw's points about the values that this country were created on.. One of the biggest was the firm notion that this country had to have a separation of church and state, yet there are many that will only vote because of their religious beliefs.. McCain has the conservative Christian vote. Thats for certain.

however, that being said, I believe that when it all comes out in the wash, voters are going to be thinking about their financial future and even an idiot can see that the republican party has been looking out for the top 10% of this country's upper class and has done almost nothing to help out the lower class.

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Originally Posted by Nebe

McCain has the conservative Christian vote. Thats for certain.

I wouldn't agree. McCain has endorsed federal funding of some stem cell research which has raised many CC hackles. They may vote for him over the Dem, but he's not going to turn out the base like Bush was able to with his focused pander campaign.

And RIJIMMY, you still need to do some splaining.

-spence