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02-29-2008, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fishbones
The real problem with tax dollars is where they are being spent. More money than ever is going towards "assistance" programs such as welfare, unemployment, etc..... Ebens point about creating jobs is good, but there are jobs out there for a lot of people. Unfortunately, they find it easier not to work and to stay at home having children who's food, diapers, etc... are being paid for by working stiffs. These children are then raised to think this way of life is "normal" and perpetuate the problem. Welfare, unemployment, food stamps, etc... were all created with the best intentions. To help people get back on their feet. But, there are people who use it as a way of life and are draining tax dollars in the process. I'd like to see new programs put in place to force people to develop job readiness skill and get back to work to support themselves. If they can get people (who are able to work) off government assistance, the money could be spent in other areas.
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For the last 50 years, since the Watts and Newark riots, the politicians have thrown just enough money at the poor to keep them where they are with a feeling of entitlement and not much else except to buy themselves votes. Imho more $$ won't do it.
The schools and teachers are already there to prepare the kids to become educated and get jobs, but the kids need soild family backing by their families to motivate them to go to school, do their homework and succeed.
Without that kind of guidance nothing will work, just the same old cycle of ,little discipline, lack of motivation and a feeling of hopelessnes.
Unfortunately, money can't buy good values ,morals and families which are the things needed to move things forward imho.
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02-29-2008, 04:30 PM
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Easton, MA
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Originally Posted by justplugit
For the last 50 years, since the Watts and Newark riots, the politicians have thrown just enough money at the poor to keep them where they are with a feeling of entitlement and not much else except to buy themselves votes. Imho more $$ won't do it.
The schools and teachers are already there to prepare the kids to become educated and get jobs, but the kids need soild family backing by their families to motivate them to go to school, do their homework and succeed.
Without that kind of guidance nothing will work, just the same old cycle of ,little discipline, lack of motivation and a feeling of hopelessnes.
Unfortunately, money can't buy good values ,morals and families which are the things needed to move things forward imho.
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I agree 100%. I meant that the money coming in now should be more wisely spent on programs to get people off of welfare, unemployment, etc..., not adding more money for new programs. It's become a way of life and a lot of people can't (or won't) break the cycle. I place a lot of blame on the politicians because they keep it going. They learned long ago to dangle the programs in front of the people to keep the votes coming their way. I work in a really bad neighborhood and every day I see the results of social programs becoming a lifestyle, as opposed to a crutch to help people when they need to get back on their feet.
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02-29-2008, 04:44 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Rhode Island
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Dats your federal budget pie chart....

"Income Security" that's the money the goverment kicks in when a corporation (or union) can no longer pay the people who earned a pension because they went under or they can't afford it. Being the only super power is very costly..
Last edited by Joe; 02-29-2008 at 04:51 PM..
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02-29-2008, 07:19 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Seekonk
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Originally Posted by justplugit
For the last 50 years, since the Watts and Newark riots, the politicians have thrown just enough money at the poor to keep them where they are with a feeling of entitlement and not much else except to buy themselves votes. Imho more $$ won't do it.
The schools and teachers are already there to prepare the kids to become educated and get jobs, but the kids need soild family backing by their families to motivate them to go to school, do their homework and succeed.
Without that kind of guidance nothing will work, just the same old cycle of ,little discipline, lack of motivation and a feeling of hopelessnes.
Unfortunately, money can't buy good values ,morals and families which are the things needed to move things forward imho.
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Well said
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