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12-18-2007, 04:10 PM
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Libs are anti death penalty for murderers, yet they have no problem aborting innocent babies. Makes me scratch my head..... 
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12-18-2007, 04:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip N
Libs are anti death penalty for murderers, yet they have no problem aborting innocent babies. Makes me scratch my head..... 
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...And the Conservatives are pro death penalty, and pro life. Hmmm. I think we're both scratching our heads on that one.
I thought is more about letting a women decide what she wants to do with her own within the realms of "privacy". It has nothing to with babies, more about the government overriding a women's decision to exercise self determination.
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12-18-2007, 05:09 PM
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sick of bluefish
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Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44
...And the Conservatives are pro death penalty, and pro life. Hmmm. I think we're both scratching our heads on that one.
I thought is more about letting a women decide what she wants to do with her own within the realms of "privacy". It has nothing to with babies, more about the government overriding a women's decision to exercise self determination.
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so, killing for a heinous crime, bad
killing for a womans right to privacy, good?
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12-18-2007, 04:58 PM
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sick of bluefish
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip N
Libs are anti death penalty for murderers, yet they have no problem aborting innocent babies. Makes me scratch my head..... 
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I can't wait for Spence's reply on that.... 
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12-18-2007, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
I can't wait for Spence's reply on that.... 
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Pretty simple really. There's not much argument that someone commiting a crime is a person, while there is much argument as to when a collection of rapidly growing cells constitutes the same.
The irony isn't on the Left here as much as it's on the Right who proclaim a social burden to protect life, then push for executions domestically and don't flinch a bit at the rampant use of military might around the globe that causes tremendous suffering of the innocent...perhaps several orders of magnitude than what they see at home...when it's spun to be in the interest of their own.
-spence
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12-18-2007, 05:07 PM
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No Lib for sure, but imho the better punishment is lifetime in prison.
Alone in a 6x8 cell with just enough food and water to keep them alive.
Maybe an hour outside each day but that's it.
Let them think about what they've done to the victim and they're family every day for the rest of their lives.
Death is too quick and not a deterrent, especially not in crimes of passion.
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" Choose Life "
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12-18-2007, 08:09 PM
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Retired Surfer
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Death is too quick and not a deterrent, especially not in crimes of passion.[/quote]
Death is a deterent, true punishment, no more no less.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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12-19-2007, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by stripersnipr
1) It deters that individual from ever killing again (crime)
2) It deters that individual from escaping (crime)
3) It deters bleeding heart politicians from commuting that indivduals sentence (should be a crime)
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Originally Posted by justplugit
No Lib for sure, but imho the better punishment is lifetime in prison.
Alone in a 6x8 cell with just enough food and water to keep them alive.
Maybe an hour outside each day but that's it.
Let them think about what they've done to the victim and they're family every day for the rest of their lives.
Death is too quick and not a deterrent, especially not in crimes of passion.
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I have no problem with either of the above quotes. 
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12-18-2007, 08:04 PM
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Now that these sob's death sentences have been made life without parole sentences means that they now can come up for parole hearings. There is no such sentence as life without parole anywhere. Look at Chuck Manson, comes up every two years, doesn't get out, but comes up every two years. Isn't New Jersey the same state that the cop killer was on death row that all the celebs have been trying to get out of jail? Walked up to the cop laying on the ground, who had been shot, and pumped two more shots into him. Abu Mumia Jamal. Or do I have the wrong state?
That knock the governor took on the head is going to get him voted out of office. People are going to stop putting up with this bullchit.
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Swimmer a.k.a. YO YO MA
Serial Mailbox Killer/Seal Fisherman
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12-18-2007, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Swimmer
Now that these sob's death sentences have been made life without parole sentences means that they now can come up for parole hearings. There is no such sentence as life without parole anywhere. Look at Chuck Manson, comes up every two years, doesn't get out, but comes up every two years....
That knock the governor took on the head is going to get him voted out of office. People are going to stop putting up with this bullchit.
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I'm sure there will be a legal argument (as it will put some attorneys in the spotlight) over the validity of his commutations, but I doubt there's much chance a paroll board would let these guys go.
Don't expect Corazine to take many lumps over this. While many don't support aboloshing the death penalty, there are far fewer who would actively seek it's reinstatement.
Oh, and Jimmy...I just read that the bill had a Republican co-sponsor. I guess you must hate them too
-spence
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