Plug Forum

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by Karl F

(by the way, I like having this forum on the menu, near the G.O.P. now )

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4.) Sorry Slip, I gotta disagree, but no bootlegging here either, the selling of 6, 12, 24, or a couple hundred a year, without paying excise tax, or any revenue, should not be encouraged. Does it go on? Of Course!.. But, let’s not encourage it, or let it happen in this forum. I am currently reading some interesting facts.. I will probably post a thread on this topic late fall early winter, when we need a Hot Stove Topic

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I didn't imply that bootleggers not pay taxes Karl and I don't think we'd encourage it. I don't know how you got that conclusion from what I said. That's fine, no selling, keep it as a hobby for making plugs for ourselves to fish. I pay all my taxes, I keep track of all my reciepts, if someone wants to sell a plug or 12, it's up to them to pay the excise tax etc. If there is selling going on, as far as I know it's just reselling as far as this site and the classifieds go.

I'll be looking to see what you will post.





Habs I know you like it as a hobby also and like to tinker, that's good. Us amatures appreciate the helpful tips and hints from the pros now and then, we don't want to exclude any of those type contributions.

[ThrowingTimber]

Habs, Lab1, afterhours, salty, bigfish, mac, bernzy, CS theres absolutely nothing wrong with these guys posts. They all contribute to the forum, and help out with the site overall.

My issue is with random guys who come on with veiled attempts to sell their stuff, under the 'guise of wanting to learn. Again the guys I mentioned and Im sure I missed some, nothing against commercial guys AT ALL.

Its cool I love to see the stuff you guys do like hab said he likes to tinker, hell man thats awesome after all how many black and purple needles can you paint before you say to yourself damn, I'd like to make something else. Again, that type of stuff I love! Its great and I'm greatful of you guys sharing that here, with us.

My issue is with the random guy, who does not contribute to anything. Not a sponsor. Never gives to the site/ forum and does nothing but take take take. Then becomes a "company" or business, I dont know maybe I'm painting a picture with too broad a brush, but I hope you guys get what Im trying to say.

Send me plugs, there are peanuts around and I dont have any small ones. That will be all.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Karl F

well john, first off its pronounced Favor, as in Do Me One ..

I know that It was a long shot reference to how Ben Stiller says Brett Farve's name in "Something About Mary", it was a tremendous longshot of a joke so I wasn't sure if people would pick up on it - thouigh I think you and I talked about that before

Opinions.. everybody got 'em.. just espressin mine..not that it counts for nuttin'..

not that i'd ever win.. I know better.. and I'll say it.. 'cause I know thats what some of yas are thinkin

I do see the potential for it to become a popularity contest.. and encourage the ego to take the next step.. sellin by PM.. and the like...

yer the boss John.. as ya see fit there Capn'

See Ya!

I highly value your opinion - honest. And taking in some of your opinion, opinion of others here, and my thinking, mix it up, and we might find a way to make it work and be good for the builders board. Lot's of places that make things, from boats to software to tackle - have a "Blank" of the Month. If we could find a proper way to do it here, it's worth looking into. If it sucks, we won't do it...

Originally Posted by ThrowingTimber

Habs, Lab1, afterhours, salty, bigfish, mac, bernzy, CS theres absolutely nothing wrong with these guys posts. They all contribute to the forum, and help out with the site overall.

My issue is with random guys who come on with veiled attempts to sell their stuff, under the 'guise of wanting to learn. Again the guys I mentioned and Im sure I missed some, nothing against commercial guys AT ALL.

Its cool I love to see the stuff you guys do like hab said he likes to tinker, hell man thats awesome after all how many black and purple needles can you paint before you say to yourself damn, I'd like to make something else. Again, that type of stuff I love! Its great and I'm greatful of you guys sharing that here, with us.

My issue is with the random guy, who does not contribute to anything. Not a sponsor. Never gives to the site/ forum and does nothing but take take take. Then becomes a "company" or business, I dont know maybe I'm painting a picture with too broad a brush, but I hope you guys get what Im trying to say.

Send me plugs, there are peanuts around and I dont have any small ones. That will be all.

We get more spam than is fun on the boards for certain. Some guys will always try to take advantage of others as well. Unfortunate but true. So we will try to be accurate when that happens.

What's the best way to figure it out?

[ThrowingTimber]

We're going to need an easy button

[smitty919]

forget this way to much drama in this place

[smitty919]

what is going on this tread was a question about plugs and what not .
and you guys turning it around in to a fight .
to tell ya the truth i find it silly if you dont like some one dont read his post.
move on to the topic at hand.

[numbskull]

Sporty, you've been building lures for a year and you are selling them already? That is a shortcut. Clearly you have much talent, and you should be justifiably proud of how far the quality of your plugs has come in the last year, but there is much more to a plug than a nice shape and paint job. Now I have no experience fishing your plugs, and I don't doubt they catch fish, probably better than mine, but when your motive for posting is partially financial (even if inadvertantly so) you should either be a sponsor (and help support the site) or go elsewhere, otherwise you are profiting off people who may not want to be used in that manner. Just the way it is. Please respect it.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by sportyguy33

So what if a guy who sells lures that don't compete against any of the sponsors wants to be a part of the Lure Forum. Are they not allowed to ask question or share pictures of the lure they make that they DON"T intend to sell but trade or swap? For example the needle fish I made and the thread got yanked. That lure was never intended to be sold to anyone It was mae for a Swap. Why shouldn't I be allowed to be apart of this learning forum if I'm not selling plugs to it's members? Is it only for a Select few builders who decides who gets to post?

just use common sense
that's the simple answer

[capesams]

[QUOTE=ThrowingTimber;521195]Habs, Lab1, afterhours, salty, bigfish, mac, bernzy, CS theres absolutely nothing wrong with these guys posts. They all contribute to the forum, and help out with the site overall.


Ahhh! Errr!Hummm! how come I feel like I was just branded a comm. maker of fish foolers. free plugs..shpin an hldin 19.95 @

[ThrowingTimber]

Nothing like that CS didnt just list commerical guys I hope I didnt give you that impression. Sorry if I did. Just listing quality builders who all contribute to the site and help out etc, field questions. And occasionally just blow folks minds with the stuff theyre making.

[Tagger]

Start another post to air this stuff out ,, Spamming ,, being up front with every one ..lieing ,,, cheating ,, using your freinds ..doing your time... being contributing member ,, feeling cheap and dirty.. being a user .,,oneway street .. me me me .. Your hard work ,my icecream ..

Now back to "Plug of the Month"---"Plug of the Year" it should be self supporting .. Maybe auction off monthly winners to reward yearly winner.. To enter monthly you must be willing to part with your plug .. On these polls you can only vote once .. Plug of the year may also be displayed on the front page with bio on builder .. Whole goal is to get people posting pics again .. Other issues may also be a factor in that ..

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by Tagger

Now back to "Plug of the Month"---"Plug of the Year" it should be self supporting .. Maybe auction off monthly winners to reward yearly winner.. To enter monthly you must be willing to part with your plug .. On these polls you can only vote once .. Plug of the year may also be displayed on the front page with bio on builder .. Whole goal is to get people posting pics again .. Other issues may also be a factor in that ..

I'm not sure this would accomplish what you want. Losing over and over will likely discourage some people......ask Flap. Adding money to it is also likely to end the fun pretty quick. Giving away your best plugs also wears thin at times. What might work better is for some of the guys who use the forum the most to each contribute a plug or two to be raffled or auctioned in the main forum. That money could the be split into quarters. One quarter to the site off the top. One quarter to a plug contributor picked at random. Next, the mods pick 10 plugs from all the plugs that are posted here (not the raffle plugs) over a time period (say 6mo to a year) and we vote on the best in 2 catagories......experienced builder and new builder. The winners get 1/4 of the raffle procceds each. I think that might encourage people to post their plugs without making it a direct competition. Enough people win to keep people happy, but without big money involved.

Another idea that I'd like to see is some sort of swap that encourages use of the plugs. For example everyone involved could be paired at random with some one else, make one plug to trade to the other guy, then you've got to go fish the plug you get (1 week window). Guy who gets the biggest fish on someone else's plug wins. The losers send all the plugs to him and he and the builder of the winning plug divide them up. Of course we might have to give a positive poundage to handicap whomever has to give Eddy their plug to fish....but it would probably work out seeing as Eddy's plugs work better than Eddy. Something to consider, anyways.

Another idea is a flavor of the month thread. Each month or two we all build one type of plug (say a needle) and post a picture. The viewing public can vote on a winner, the guy with the most wins at the end of the year gets some sort of small prize/recognition at the plugfest (the sillier the better).

Finally, I'd suggest we do away with mega swaps. This, I realize, may not be popular but I think it kills a lot of participation on the site. Guys end up building tedious numbers of one specific plug that takes all winter and keeps them from experimenting and posting different stuff. Difficult topic, since a lot of people have built up a big plug collections by participating in these swaps, and no one forces anybody to be involved in them, but I do feel their impact on the site deserves discussion.

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by numbskull

I'm not sure this would accomplish what you want. Losing over and over will likely discourage some people......ask Flap. Adding money to it is also likely to end the fun pretty quick. Giving away your best plugs also wears thin at times. What might work better is for some of the guys who use the forum the most to each contribute a plug or two to be raffled or auctioned in the main forum. That money could the be split into quarters. One quarter to the site off the top. One quarter to a plug contributor picked at random. Next, the mods pick 10 plugs from all the plugs that are posted here (not the raffle plugs) over a time period (say 6mo to a year) and we vote on the best in 2 catagories......experienced builder and new builder. The winners get 1/4 of the raffle procceds each. I think that might encourage people to post their plugs without making it a direct competition. Enough people win to keep people happy, but without big money involved.

Another idea that I'd like to see is some sort of swap that encourages use of the plugs. For example everyone involved could be paired at random with some one else, make one plug to trade to the other guy, then you've got to go fish the plug you get (1 week window). Guy who gets the biggest fish on someone else's plug wins. The losers send all the plugs to him and he and the builder of the winning plug divide them up. Of course we might have to give a positive poundage to handicap whomever has to give Eddy their plug to fish....but it would probably work out seeing as Eddy's plugs work better than Eddy. Something to consider, anyways.

Another idea is a flavor of the month thread. Each month or two we all build one type of plug (say a needle) and post a picture. The viewing public can vote on a winner, the guy with the most wins at the end of the year gets some sort of small prize/recognition at the plugfest (the sillier the better).

Finally, I'd suggest we do away with mega swaps. This, I realize, may not be popular but I think it kills a lot of participation on the site. Guys end up building tedious numbers of one specific plug that takes all winter and keeps them from experimenting and posting different stuff. Difficult topic, since a lot of people have built up a big plug collections by participating in these swaps, and no one forces anybody to be involved in them, but I do feel their impact on the site deserves discussion.

Bump......back to the topic.

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by sportyguy33

The best plugs won't necessarily win. The only guys who would have a chance to win would be one of the the Good ole Boys.

Not sure if I'm a Good Ole Boy .?? definition of best plug ? best catcher or best looking ? My intterest is more in performance now .. Otherwise its just arm exercise and these guns don't need that .. I've never won nothing .. plugfest ,, nothing ,, not even a close third .. .. thats ok .. i suc ,, just trying to pic up pace here .. not trying to win stuff .. Ok .. rule .. my idea ,, I can't enter .. works for me ,,

[Backbeach Jake]

Originally Posted by Tagger

Not sure if I'm a Good Ole Boy .?? definition of best plug ? best catcher or best looking ? My intterest is more in performance now .. Otherwise its just arm exercise and these guns don't need that .. I've never won nothing .. plugfest ,, nothing ,, not even a close third .. .. thats ok .. i suc ,, just trying to pic up pace here .. not trying to win stuff .. Ok .. rule .. my idea ,, I can't enter .. works for me ,,

Sad but true, Tagger. They have the look and they sure as hell deliver.
Good ole boy, huh,that't did it for me. Kept my yap shut until that, get bent....

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by Tagger

Not sure if I'm a Good Ole Boy .?

No, your "Good" days are long past, though you've got the "ole" part down pat I'd say. As for the "boy" part, well we'll take your word on that because we ain't got the gas mask we'd need to check.

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by sportyguy33

The best plugs won't necessarily win. The only guys who would have a chance to win would be one of the the Good ole Boys.

you need to grow up

Originally Posted by sportyguy33

Salty
If it ain't a Good Ole boys Club Then Why did My needlefish post get deleted? I don't Sell Needlefish?

I guess I need to send you a PM and explain why so you don't go off topic on this thread anymore. because if this keeps up I will just remove your posting priveledges if I can figure out how to, but that might be what you are looking for

[capesams]

Originally Posted by ThrowingTimber

Nothing like that CS didnt just list commerical guys I hope I didnt give you that impression. Sorry if I did. Just listing quality builders who all contribute to the site and help out etc, field questions. And occasionally just blow folks minds with the stuff theyre making.

Just havin abit-o-fun with ya....2007 been a year from he-llo.Pay no nevermind to me.

You all carry on and don't let plug buildin get all ya undies in a bunch..it's just suppose to be something fun to do.