22 dead kids

[PaulS]

I had just heard 17 shot w/ only 2 killed.

Sad!

[fishpoopoo]

in VA it is not against the law to carry concealed on a college campus, except for VCU (a one-off exception). open carry is legal almost everywhere.

if there was just ONE armed citizen on campus - who knows if the outcome would have been different.

words which will forever live in infamy:

A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.

House Bill 1572 didn't get through the House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety. It died Monday in the subcommittee stage, the first of several hurdles bills must overcome before becoming laws.

The bill was proposed by Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Shenandoah County, on behalf of the Virginia Citizens Defense League. Gilbert was unavailable Monday and spokesman Gary Frink would not comment on the bill's defeat other than to say the issue was dead for this General Assembly session.

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

Del. Dave Nutter, R-Christiansburg, would not comment Monday because he was not part of the subcommittee that discussed the bill.

Most universities in Virginia require students and employees, other than police, to check their guns with police or campus security upon entering campus. The legislation was designed to prohibit public universities from making "rules or regulations limiting or abridging the ability of a student who possesses a valid concealed handgun permit ... from lawfully carrying a concealed handgun."

The legislation allowed for exceptions for participants in athletic events, storage of guns in residence halls and military training programs.

Last spring a Virginia Tech student was disciplined for bringing a handgun to class, despite having a concealed handgun permit. Some gun owners questioned the university's authority, while the Virginia Association of Chiefs of Police came out against the presence of guns on campus.

In June, Tech's governing board approved a violence prevention policy reiterating its ban on students or employees carrying guns and prohibiting visitors from bringing them into campus facilities.

http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/wb/xp-50658

[fishsmith]

OMG that is horrible, god bless the victims families.
How much more f'd is going to get.

[Andy D]

Another A$$HOLE with a deathwish that didn't have the balls to kill himself . Figures kill a few students and let the police kill me. F%%KIN
COWARD

[fishpoopoo]

news is saying that the shooter did kill himself.

[BigFish]

Why can't they just take themselves out?!?!?!? Why do they always have to take alot of innocent, vibrant lives with them?!?!?!?

[fishpoopoo]

...but HOW could something like this ever happen?

The university BANNED GUNS on campus.

[Raven]

the metal detector searches ?

such a waste of innocent lives...

and nobody saw this coming.???

[fishpoopoo]

gun-free zones = gun-free victim zones.

[fishpoopoo]

law enforcement may have dropped the ball on this one (to some extent).

two unusual bomb threats made in the last two days (targeted at the engineering building). and nobody puts 2+2 together.

the new police response doctrine is to rush in and take out the school shooter as soon as possible rather than the old way of securing the scene and calling in a negotiator (this changed after columbine).

so the cops secured the dorm but reportedly lost track of the shooter FOR TWO HOURS ... the shooter then moved on to commit more mayhem today.

i fear this will play out to be a tragic comedy of errors ...

[Andy D]

Originally Posted by Bassturbed

news is saying that the shooter did kill himself.

Thanks for the correction