Striper Cup 2007 - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

NIB · 01-28-2007, 09:36 AM

Catch an Release is a joke in a tourney worth anything..
Nice concept but fisherman are liars to begin with.
Giving out prizes for fish tales won't cut it in NIB's world..

Ake G · 01-28-2007, 09:47 AM

I'm not and would never be interested in participating in or supporting any tournament or organization that encourages fish kills.

I think it's irresponsible and hypocritical of On The Water magazine to stage or support this tournament at all.

Back Beach · 01-28-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NIB

Catch an Release is a joke in a tourney worth anything..
Nice concept but fisherman are liars to begin with.
Giving out prizes for fish tales won't cut it in NIB's world..

Agreed 100%.In Back Beach's world its the same "weigh", pun intended.

I think the fairy tale division would bring more people in, which is good because it is a sportsmanship event, after all. Lots of good, honest anglers out there that catch and release too.

I would presume the awards would have to be lesser for unoffically weighed fish, though.No trucks or boats, maybe a plaque,boga grip, and some barbless hooks.

Its good in theory and a conservation minded gesture.The potential abuses are exponentially greater than the non catch and release divisions though if large prizes are offered.If the C&R is its own divison though, there is no reason to oppose it. Its a good idea.

tattoobob · 01-28-2007, 11:18 AM

I am thinking this over and I may just join the end of year party was fun I saw alot of people there that I didn't see all year, and I am not in it for the win just the fun. I only keep what I am going to feed the family. That is probably 3 or 4 in the 15 to 20 pound range

tattoobob · 01-28-2007, 11:24 AM

Is S-B Sponsoring a team this year?

inTHERAPY · 01-30-2007, 10:12 AM

Catch and release is just a token for those who catch and release. Read between the lines, more people to enter/more subscriptions, and happy tree huggers. C&R can only be for a pounder pin. No catch and release fish is going to win a prize. IMO If OTW got rid of every fishermen with a commercial license that tourney would never make it!

leptar · 01-30-2007, 12:31 PM

Doh!... Treat this fairly... No fish shall be weighed in during the commercial season...

there is one solution...

and i'm far from being a rocket scientist...

I don't think it's right or fair to tell a commercal you can't weigh in a fish now because it's in season or because you hold a license... whats good for one is good for all... let this be a rule and not a punishment because of profession...

Sweetwater · 01-30-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by leptar

Doh!... Treat this fairly... No fish shall be weighed in during the commercial season...

there is one solution...

and i'm far from being a rocket scientist...

I don't think it's right or fair to tell a commercal you can't weigh in a fish now because it's in season or because you hold a license... whats good for one is good for all... let this be a rule and not a punishment because of profession...

I believe that no fish should qualify while one is engaged in commercial fishing. Two reasons 1) the temptation to cull is too great (we've already seen some abuse here) and 2) it disadvantages recreational fishermen who can only possess 2 fish.

To a broader point, I dislike this whole idea of many fishermen killing fish only so one person can win a prize. I only keep fish that will go on the table. In this day and age, these types of tournaments are anachronistic. They may have been okay in earlier times but now the ecosystem just can't support it any longer. If fishermen desire to "compete," surely there is a more environmentally friendly way to do so.

Mike P · 02-01-2007, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leptar

Doh!... Treat this fairly... No fish shall be weighed in during the commercial season...

there is one solution...

and i'm far from being a rocket scientist...

I don't think it's right or fair to tell a commercal you can't weigh in a fish now because it's in season or because you hold a license... whats good for one is good for all... let this be a rule and not a punishment because of profession...

Keep in mind--this is a coast-wide tournament. You can't make everyone dance to the tune of the Mass commercial season. Last year fishermen from Maine to NJ entered. How fair is it to guys in Maine to in effect suspend this tournament for what might well be the most productive part of their season for big fish (mid-July to mid August)?

I'm a shore guy. I'll take my chances against the shorebound commercial pinhookers

If there are guys on the Cape puting thirty 34"+ fish on the sand or rocks every night, my hat's off to them

If you're a boat guy and you think a commercial boater has a leg up--just don't enter

inTHERAPY · 02-02-2007, 01:26 PM

The new rules are up and I think they look very fair. I think a shore fish will win the biggest fish of the year, 45# will get you almost 60 points

NIB · 02-02-2007, 02:49 PM

Here's the link..
http://ww.onthewater.com/stripercuprules.html

Already being misunderstood as the rule states for club entrants only.
A shore caught fish will be multiplyed by a factor of 1.3

Some interesting changes one would have effected me was only 2 fish per angler can be counted towards the team's total of ten fish.
I had three fish last yr..I think.
Catch an release is for pins only...
There will be five different key holders this yr
(in each division shore an boat).as a individual can only win one monthly prize.After that it goes to the next biggest fish..