Al Gore

[wheresmy50]

Originally Posted by Tagger

Any one see Al Gores talk about Global Warming on Oprah ... He has a New Documentary film and I think a book with all proceeds going towards the cause of Global Warming ..You can rent the DVD on Netflix . "An Inconveinent Truth" is the name of it .. I had to sit down and watch and listen to him yesterday . I'm not down with him Politicly but as someone who's been studying Global Warming he says the last 50 years, he has some scary stuff to say . All coming alot sooner than predicted.. Lot of pics of Greenland with major Ice melting in recent years .. Says 9-11 memorial could soon be well under water .. All due to CO2 emissions world wide but led by the USA.. Can be avoided by doing small things and using certain products but must be a world effort . I'm not an expert on the subject just passing info that may be of intterest and affecting us all .. He says Large energy interest coal, oil,are already combating him ,,but he,s not alone on this by a long shot ,, Major scientific warnings ,,warmer climates,, dryer climates,, warmer oceans ,, more powerful ocean affects on storms, He said scientist tied to special intterest say there's no problem,, much like the early cigarette doctors who said there's no proof smoking is bad for you .. 100's of thousands of deaths later we know better and still learning.. Sounds like its time to get the head out of the sand ..

Just keep in mind that there is not a consensus that people are causing global warming. There's a fairly loud minority out there, but some, including myself when I researched it 5 years ago, feel that the "proof" is pretty thin. Also, these people tend to reference each other in their publications. I found myself going around in circles when I tried to follow their sources.

What's not up for debate is that there have been drastic climate changes before people were ever around i.e. the ice ages.

It's very easy to believe things that seem reasonable. Pollution is bad, therefore pollution can cause global warming. Just be careful. It took the FDA 15 years to re-approve silicone breast implants because of hysteria-based faulty logic. In the end, the statistics proved the truth beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Here there is no way to do that, there's no way to prove what the temperature of the earth will be in X years, so it's easy for people to create a lot of fear with little in the way of facts. Similarly, the other side can't point to indisputable facts that it's not going to happen, they can only disagree with the alleged evidence.

[nightprowler]

Originally Posted by wheresmy50

Just keep in mind that there is not a consensus that people are causing global warming. There's a fairly loud minority out there, but some, including myself when I researched it 5 years ago, feel that the "proof" is pretty thin. Also, these people tend to reference each other in their publications. I found myself going around in circles when I tried to follow their sources.

What's not up for debate is that there have been drastic climate changes before people were ever around i.e. the ice ages.

It's very easy to believe things that seem reasonable. Pollution is bad, therefore pollution can cause global warming. Just be careful. It took the FDA 15 years to re-approve silicone breast implants because of hysteria-based faulty logic. In the end, the statistics proved the truth beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Here there is no way to do that, there's no way to prove what the temperature of the earth will be in X years, so it's easy for people to create a lot of fear with little in the way of facts. Similarly, the other side can't point to indisputable facts that it's not going to happen, they can only disagree with the alleged evidence.

Its real, its happening, I work in a lab that studies climatology and my gf is working on her phd on it as well. its true that in the past there have been perterbations in climate, consisting of warming and cooling periods, but never on the scale and the pace that is occuring now. One of the biggest effects is that the CO2 in the atmosphere is being absorbed into the oceans forming carbonic acid which attacks calcium carbonate, which is what makes up most shells and coral reefs.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/276613_coral06.html

one thing that non-scientists often site is that the proof of global warming is only a "theory." to the general public "theory" doesn't necessarily mean fact, but from a scientific perspective a theory is about as solid as you can get. not long ago i was a skeptic myself about the effects of global warming thinking that the earth was just in a warming cycle. but through reading papers and speaking with many people MUCH smarter then me at WHOI where I work, and at other research institutions, who have been studying this for a long time, they have convinced me.
the reason the papers continually cite the same people is that these people are experts in the field and are working on these problems non-stop so they continue to produce papers.
I have not seen the Gore video, I would like to. but from what I hear it is pretty accurate. The time scale at which these things are occuring might be slightly slower then is implied but they will happen. ice is melting and sea level is rising.