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Old 08-21-2006, 06:46 PM   #1
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It is a very rough world. As for myself, I think violent terrorists should be evaporated many time over.

I just don`t know how we can do it without these full scale wars but I wish there was a less destructive alternate route.

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Old 08-22-2006, 07:07 AM   #2
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It is a very rough world. As for myself, I think violent terrorists should be evaporated many time over.

I just don`t know how we can do it without these full scale wars but I wish there was a less destructive alternate route.


You are getting there Skitter....

You only have to accept one more fact and you will be free. There is NO way to "evaporate many times over" the pure evil that are terrorists via a "less destructive alternative route."

These people use whatever means they have at there disposal to inflict the most damage that they can. Car bombs...airplanes...gassing.... Whatever they can get their backwards 3rd world hands on, they will use to kill you, me and yes....even Spence.

They speak bully and bully is all they understand. I am thrilled our troops have taken the fight overseas to Iraq, Afghanistan, Indonesia etc. Every morning I wake up and tune in to the news and thank God these kids are over there doing there jobs protecting us and fighting these pieces of sh*t on their own soil.
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Old 08-22-2006, 07:18 AM   #3
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I was born in 53 so I like bush just not GW

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Old 08-22-2006, 07:56 AM   #4
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They speak bully and bully is all they understand. I am thrilled our troops have taken the fight overseas to Iraq, Afghanistan, Indonesia etc. Every morning I wake up and tune in to the news and thank God these kids are over there doing there jobs protecting us and fighting these pieces of sh*t on their own soil.
Thrilled? Our troops are mostly held up in bases in Iraq so they don't get into the sectarian crossfire...

We're not killing Jihadists, we're killing ordinary Iraqis fighting a civil war...

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Old 08-22-2006, 08:28 AM   #5
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[QUOTE=spence]Thrilled? Our troops are mostly held up in bases in Iraq so they don't get into the sectarian crossfire...

We're not killing Jihadists, we're killing ordinary Iraqis fighting a civil war...

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I understand Iraq is the Party "binky" but there is a lot more going on in a lot of other areas than Iraq. We have more special ops soldiers spread out around the world today than in our country's history. They are doing things in the middle of the night that would make the wack job liberal bloggers and the rest of the pajamahadeen crap their Dockers.
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Old 08-23-2006, 07:50 PM   #6
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We have more special ops soldiers spread out around the world today than in our country's history. They are doing things in the middle of the night that would make the wack job liberal bloggers and the rest of the pajamahadeen crap their Dockers.
You sure have a lot of faith...special ops have their place certainly, but they can't do squat to keep the moderates from slipping into extremisim.

Perhaps instead you could absorb the facts instead of just believing what you're told...

Our borders are still open, FBI computers still haven't been upgraded...heck the 9/11 panel gave the Admin an F for domestic protections.

Under Bush North Korea went from having zero nukes to 6-12.

Iran went from helping us in Afghanistan to electing an Islamic hardliner using fear to hurt our economy.

Iraq is in a bloody civil war which the Administration stubbornly denies. To this day they insist the Iraqi people want a unified country which simply isn't true.

The Palestinian people freely elected a terrorist government.

Egypt, Russia etc... have all moved further away from Democracy.

Bush is now held in lower regard in most Islamic nations than Osama Bin laden.

And on and on and on...

But it's all ok because at least the panty waisted liberals aren't in power

I think the problem is pretty clear here. Your position is based on emotion instead of observable facts. Perhaps you've just bent under all the fearmongering.

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Old 08-24-2006, 08:01 AM   #7
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You sure have a lot of faith...special ops have their place certainly, but they can't do squat to keep the moderates from slipping into extremisim.

Perhaps instead you could absorb the facts instead of just believing what you're told...

Our borders are still open, FBI computers still haven't been upgraded...heck the 9/11 panel gave the Admin an F for domestic protections.

Under Bush North Korea went from having zero nukes to 6-12.

Iran went from helping us in Afghanistan to electing an Islamic hardliner using fear to hurt our economy.

Iraq is in a bloody civil war which the Administration stubbornly denies. To this day they insist the Iraqi people want a unified country which simply isn't true.

The Palestinian people freely elected a terrorist government.

Egypt, Russia etc... have all moved further away from Democracy.

Bush is now held in lower regard in most Islamic nations than Osama Bin laden.

And on and on and on...

But it's all ok because at least the panty waisted liberals aren't in power

I think the problem is pretty clear here. Your position is based on emotion instead of observable facts. Perhaps you've just bent under all the fearmongering.

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Are you serious? Stop it with the holier than thou approach will you. This "enlightened one act is tired. Where do you get this stuff? Escahton? Move On?

You give your opinion, I give mine, You post your party articles I post mine.
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I love it when Bush says the Iraqui people just want freedom and democracy after we Shocked and Awed their asses and as we now try to desperately control an escalating civil war.

Would we want to become a strict orthodox Muslim country after being pounded by a Isalmic war machine?


They never asked for us and they don`t want us there.

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Old 08-25-2006, 08:14 AM   #9
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Are you serious? Stop it with the holier than thou approach will you. This "enlightened one act is tired. Where do you get this stuff? Escahton? Move On?
Or retired military, Bush's lips, terrorisim experts, first hand observers...

I don't even know what Eschaton is, nor do I get anything from MO.

This conclusion isn't based on emotion, it's based on observable evidence (both empiracle and anecdotal) that's multi-sourced.

Enlightened no...but informed yes!

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You know Spence, your a tipical Democrat. Theres never enough money to do things right the first time,BUT, always enough money to do it again, and again, and again. Thats why the Democrats are on the outside looking in. The American people has had enough of the Democtatic Bull%$%$%$%$!!!!!
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You know Spence, your a tipical Democrat. Theres never enough money to do things right the first time,BUT, always enough money to do it again, and again, and again. Thats why the Democrats are on the outside looking in. The American people has had enough of the Democtatic Bull%$%$%$%$!!!!!
Actually I'm not a Dem you old coot. Lifelong Republican who's abandoned the party of Goldwater for independent status until GOP has been seriously reformed.

If you think the social and neo conservatives represent the will of middle America than I've got some oceanfront land in Little Compton to sell you.

Because you're not paying any attention.

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Actually I'm not a Dem you old coot. Lifelong Republican who's abandoned the party of Goldwater for independent status until GOP has been seriously reformed.

If you think the social and neo conservatives represent the will of middle America than I've got some oceanfront land in Little Compton to sell you.

Because you're not paying any attention.

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Your just the kind of Republican the party dosen't need!! There are enough turn-coats in politics now!!!!
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Your just the kind of Republican the party dosen't need!! There are enough turn-coats in politics now!!!!
Turn coat?

The entire GOP has cast aside traditional conservatisim for a new radically progressive authoritarian rule. It's they who are the turn-coats.

Think about what being a conservative meant to the likes of Barry Goldwater and then look at today.

Stop defining yourself by what you are not and take inventory of what you are!

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