Thinkin out loud--

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by Raven

all the above theories......

i went to the crystal ball room

to consult with the great Oracle....

he replied....
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if you make them,

they will swim....

then everything went cloudy

Its not a Theory to me ... after floating maybe 300 blanks its become a conclusion ...

[justplugit]

RAVEN you are out of control.

[justplugit]

OK here goes----
After an unscientific , fly by the seat of your pants study, done in 103 deg heat today, these are the results:

12 plugs, 6 ayc and 6 red ceda were marked on the lathe using the "The Turning Out of Round Theory" and then taken for a swim in the bathtub using "The Hydro-orientation Theory".

Of the 12 plugs tested by the TOR Theory, the results were:

8 showed the Flat side down.

4 showed the round side down.

Of the 12 plugs tested by the HO Theory,the results were:

6 showed the Open grain down.

6 showed the Closed grain down.

When they were broken down by AYC vs Red Ceda the results were:

OTR Theory:

Red Ceda 5 flat side down, 1 round side down.
Ayc 3 flat side down 3 round side down.

HO Theory:
Red Ceda 5 open grain down, 1 closed grain down.
Ayc 3 open grain down, 3 closed grain down.

Conclusion:
Between the 2 ways tested the HO Theory showed 100% accuracy.
The OTR Theory did show some consistency with the Red Ceda being that 5 out of 6 times the Flat side was down, but split 3 and 3 on the AYC. So if you didn't want to HO with Red Ceda you have a good chance of getting it right by drillin the belly holes in the open grain.However, being there are 2 sides of open grain your chances of drilling the right side are diminished.

Any questions on the validity of the results should be directed to NumbSkull, as being a Doctor and having to deceifer 100's of studies in his medical profession is the only qualified guy on the site.

Someone else will have to do "The Rollem Theory", there's not a level spot in my whole house.
The "Hold on Danny Theory" will have to wait till gas prices go down.

Tagga, ya owe me Big Time.

[Tagger]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Tagga, ya owe me Big Time.

Checks in the mail..... Surprised it was that cut and dry ,,,(face grain up or to the side) I usaully have some that sit diagnal .. Also noticed the force is stronger in some pieces than others .. Some you mark top ,,,spin ,, and they slowly roll top up again .. Some the force is strong and they snap right back ,,quickly .

[Backbeach Jake]

JPI, I gots to know; how the hell do you have that many brain cells left?

[BigFish]

All I am saying is once the weight/hardware is introduced, its a whole new ball game. Nice test though and I have no doubt of its accuracy.

[NIB]

Originally Posted by BigFish

All I am saying is once the weight/hardware is introduced, its a whole new ball game. Nice test though and I have no doubt of its accuracy.

I have some danny's that are my lucky plugs just out catch the other ones.U 've never heard that ?? By chance i think they got it right.
Lots of my plugs push the boundry's of wieght to action.Mainly for castability an good action in rougher water when bass like to play.getting it right helps me make a plug that will swim better within these guidelines.i toyed with this yrs ago but it was a PITA.
But the taggerman has reopened my eyes to its importance.
Do what u like.I also believe in HO.there's more to making good lures than leavin things to chance.I make my own plugs.Because i want the best lure I can pull out of my bag when I find the time to fish.Why build a plug that fights itself to swim.Why compromise.

[Jigman]

Originally Posted by BigFish

All I am saying is once the weight/hardware is introduced, its a whole new ball game....

Actually, its part of the same ballgame. Yes, the weight, lip, hooks, grommets, how close to dead center you drill, etc. all come into play. However, if you start off with something that sits right in the water, the wood will not be acting against the other parts. Want to put this to a real life test? Turn two identical swimmer blanks. Drop them in a tub of water and mark top on both. Finish up one by placing "top" on one side and the other with the "top" as the back of the plug. Take them out for a swim and report back. Unless you really screwed up something, I can already tell you which one will swim better.

JPI stuff. Like Tagger, I've found found some blanks where the grain was diagonal. Type of wood seems to have an influence too.

Bottom line, there a plenty of different ways to build a plug. To each their own. Seems to me that if you are going to spend the time to make a custom plug, you would want to make it the best way possible.

Jigman

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake

JPI, I gots to know; how the hell do you have that many brain cells left?

I dunno Fred, sometimes i amaze myself.

[Tagger]

darters,,, thats where this started for me ,, Musso type ,,, no weight ,,, just wood .. I didn't like the idea of getting hard maple wet .. A piece falls of the bench and it cracks .. Had to seal it, tank it ,,drill it ,, then seal it again .. pia.. But they didn't roll out in the ditch .. not one .. asked somebody at Red Top why no darters on the wall ? "Oh ,, they roll out in the ditch" they said ..