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05-01-2006, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Indanite
We are all immigrants..... 
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You and I are LEGAL, our familys came to this country by following the rules and doing it through the legal proccess. Can't say the same thing about the mexicans hopping the fences now can we? This is NOT about LEGAL imigrants!! this is about ILLEGAL imigrants who dont follow the law of the US. Why is this so hard for people to understand???  Its so simple yet folks make it so freakin complicated. Or they are PC people who are afraid they might offend someone. I think that is the most likely scenerio.
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05-01-2006, 12:24 PM
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I heard Rush Limbaugh wants to round up all the illegal aliens, and make gasoline additives out of them. 
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05-01-2006, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip N
this is about ILLEGAL imigrants who dont follow the law of the US.
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Skippy, do you speed?
-spence
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05-01-2006, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Skippy, do you speed?
-spence
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The times i have i've gotten pulled over and ticketed, as i should've becuase i broke the law. But in your world you give the Illegals a pass and dont care if they break law, no punishment no nothing. if you break the law ,no matter how severe or minor, we have penalties for the law breaking. It keeps order in the country. But i guess for some reason ILLEGALS get a free pass on this law right? Please tell me why its ok for them to break and ignore OUR laws and we should reward thier law breaking actions? becuase this is what we are doing, rewarding criminal behavior.
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05-01-2006, 01:11 PM
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Well, illegal immigration is considered a "civil" offense...sort of like speeding...
Just wanted to lump you all in the same bucket
-spence
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05-01-2006, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip N
You and I are LEGAL, our familys came to this country by following the rules and doing it through the legal proccess. Can't say the same thing about the mexicans hopping the fences now can we? This is NOT about LEGAL imigrants!! this is about ILLEGAL imigrants who dont follow the law of the US. Why is this so hard for people to understand???  Its so simple yet folks make it so freakin complicated. Or they are PC people who are afraid they might offend someone. I think that is the most likely scenerio.
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Quoted for absolute truth. All my ancestors were imigrants as well, my grandparents were not born here, but they did it the right way, and that is all we are asking, do it right so you can fit properly into our structured system
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05-01-2006, 12:46 PM
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05-01-2006, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottC
Quoted for absolute truth. All my ancestors were imigrants as well, my grandparents were not born here, but they did it the right way, and that is all we are asking, do it right so you can fit properly into our structured system
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To bad some people fail to understand this simple logic. Do it the right way and America welcomes them with open arms. Do it illiegally and we have no respect for you, becuase they have no respect for America by breaking our laws and cutting in front of the line of people who are going through the LEGAL proccess to come to America.
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05-01-2006, 01:18 PM
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Also known as OAK
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Originally Posted by Skip N
To bad some people fail to understand this simple logic. Do it the right way and America welcomes them with open arms. Do it illiegally and we have no respect for you, becuase they have no respect for America by breaking our laws and cutting in front of the line of people who are going through the LEGAL proccess to come to America.
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I often wonder how many of our ancestors DID get in here legally? I dont know the answer to that, and I'm calling anyone here out, I just take it for face value that my relatives got here legally, but who knows? The french canadian side of my family dates back to the 1700's? were they legal or did they just show up?
Does everyone KNOW for FACT that their ancestors got here on the up and up?
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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05-01-2006, 02:02 PM
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I didn't read all of the thread, but one part I did read hit a nerve with me. Someone stated that illegals do not suck the system dry and contribute over 80 billion dollars to our system. Let me enlighten the healthcare aspect of this. I work in a huge hospital, the majority of trauma patients due to a fall from a rooftop, ladder, etc. are day laborers. These people incur huge medical bills, staggering to say the least. I now work in the outpatient orthopedic facility for the same hospital, and the amount of patients that are seen here is insane, most of them follow-up to those traumatic falls mentioned. Who foots the bill for these people? You and me, our medical insurance. This is one hospital of the thousands around the country where I am sure the same occurs on a daily basis. Another observation is the "free clinic" that is offered to those without insurance a few times per month where I work. Guess what the majority of the patients are?
you guessed it. Not a word of english, not a thank you, not a smile.
The vast majority of these people want everything without contributing anything.
These patients make things very difficult for all involved. The MD getting called in to screw this guys leg together. The support staff that needs to be called in to help the MD. The hospital workers that need to take extra time to care for these people due to the language barrier. The list goes on and on. I am not saying that these people should not be cared for, I am a compassionate human being, and want no one to suffer, but the big picture is the fact that they are here, and get sick and hurt, and we care for them in these situations, losing time and money in the process. If they weren't here, it wouldn't be a problem.
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05-01-2006, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jnski
I didn't read all of the thread, but one part I did read hit a nerve with me. Someone stated that illegals do not suck the system dry and contribute over 80 billion dollars to our system.
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I don't think anybody has stated either...
-spence
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05-01-2006, 02:05 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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You did Spence.
And after re-reading that post it also states that we are ignoring reality?
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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05-01-2006, 02:49 PM
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I've been following this thread with mild curiosity all day, and wow, some interesting perspectives out there. I love watching it unfold when someone justifys and bashes an entire country over what is undeniably the actions of a few. I've done some serious hospital time with one of my kids over the past two years, and I gotta tell ya, being one of the few caucasion families in a packed waiting room, I never once considered the fact that I was the only paying customer there. Unless you're on line behind them, how do you tell which ones are paying and which can't? Do they look different? Hey, do you think "they" can tell which white folks are bilking the system and which are paying? Who would have thought?! I almost feel bad now, that when "those people" were shuffling their papers back and forth and filling out forms with the registrar while trying to calm some absolutely adorable, but very scared and very sick child, that I didn't stand up and shout, "Hey, Javier, 'Give me your tired, your poor, your sick, your huddled masses' doesn't mean you guys who try to sneak in the back door undetected, so go back to the pueblo." Yea right. But getting back to my first point, it seems like more than a few in this thread have no use for either Brazil or Mexico, in their entirety, mind you, and I just hope the moderators here are not so influenced by that line of thinking that they discourage S-B associates from celebrating Cinco de Mayo this Friday.
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05-01-2006, 03:16 PM
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Lest get everyone from S-B and SOL and sneak onto Mexico next Friday. Stay awhile and get a tan then head for Brazil
Soon the boards will be bare of posts with the bigger fish coming home and passing through 
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Good health and family
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05-01-2006, 01:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip N
You and I are LEGAL, our familys came to this country by following the rules and doing it through the legal proccess. Can't say the same thing about the mexicans hopping the fences now can we? This is NOT about LEGAL imigrants!! this is about ILLEGAL imigrants who dont follow the law of the US. Why is this so hard for people to understand???  Its so simple yet folks make it so freakin complicated. Or they are PC people who are afraid they might offend someone. I think that is the most likely scenerio.
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No..... we just slaughtered and infected with diseases the people who lived here for thousands and thousands of years before WE DISCOVERED AMERICA.
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Good health and family
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05-01-2006, 01:35 PM
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Being a member of the Cherokee Tribe I can relate to that remark
-spence
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05-01-2006, 02:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Indanite
No..... we just slaughtered and infected with diseases the people who lived here for thousands and thousands of years before WE DISCOVERED AMERICA.
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True, But the Nature of Mankind was always "Devide and Conquer". Which pretty much goes back to the cave people days. 
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05-01-2006, 02:14 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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I am right where I came from. 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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05-02-2006, 01:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Indanite
No..... we just slaughtered and infected with diseases the people who lived here for thousands and thousands of years before WE DISCOVERED AMERICA.
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So leave America if you feel so guilty about it? The issue at hand has nothing to do with native americans or whatever. The issue at hand is people breaking the current laws of the US, and sticking it in the ass of imigrants who do it the legal way.
If your standing at the checkout at Stop&Shop, and 15 people with full shopping carts cut in front of you and look back and laugh at you becuase they just screwed you over you'd be pissed too. This is excactlly what the Illegals are doing, they are cutting in front of the line and flipping you off as they do it. And they could care less becuase people like you and others encourage them to cut in line and %$%$%$%$ over the good imigrants doing it the right way. Its dissgraceful that people condone this behavior.
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