Effecting gas prices

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I think if most people made a tiny effort they could reduce their gas consumption by more than 3% simply by subtle alterations to their behavior.

Drive a little slower, try to carpool once a week, consolidating shopping trips on the weekend etc...

But the real solution is to demand game changing technology from Industry and yes even our Government.

Now SUV's and trucks are not evil, and some people certainly need them for work or to haul a boat.

But think back at all the times you've laughed at those stupid French people in their little bitty stupid French cars.

Yea, I'm talking to you.

Better suck it up and change your attitude. Save the '68 SS for the showroom and buy a Citrogen 2CV for the daily commute. You won't look as cool, and you make not impress the ladies...

...but in context of all this, that new Dedge Hemi looks pretty revolting doesn't it?

Hell, it's a threat to our freaking National Security!

Raven, Brazil provides a vision...not a feesable model.

To do what Brazil did we would have to bascially socialize the energy industry and import even more workers from Mexico.

Yes, the dirty little secret behind Brazil's success is near slave labor!

-spence

[Raven]

can you say dedge hemi lol

maybe the mexicans can grow the crops for bio fuel

its not any one answer either

its a combination of technologies that win the gas war (dilema)

just seen a guy on tv who made his own mororized bike thats getting 87 miles to the gallon

[Backbeach Jake]

Watch the tube. Big Oil has already anticipated a lame boycott. They've played the "shortage" card. AND jacked the prices. I'm seeing a few "out of order/out out gas covers on pumps already. I HATE these greedy bastards.

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I was at the local 7-11 today. a guy walked in an said he wanted $5.00 worth of gas. The attendant F A R T E D and gave him a receipt.

[Joe]

When I worked at XTRA Mart - back when I was 20 - one time I asked the tanker guy where the valve was for the super.....

He said "I'll clue ya kid, its all the same f______ gas - only the price is different."

Little oil company executive, big oil company executive, what's the difference once their head's blown off?

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Originally Posted by Joe

He said "I'll clue ya kid, its all the same f______ gas - only the price is different."

Well, that's not really true.

While it does all start out the same gas, "super" has more additive to that gas to actually make the gasoline require a higher pressure to combust.

Some engines (like the turbo/supercharged buggy I drive) are designed to run at a higher pressure, and so technically should be used with the higher octane gas for best performance.

You could argue that since the gas station has to use up some of their facility to provide the higher octane fuels, and there is less demand that the price reflects the cost of sales...

Or you could argue that they just want to shaft the people who drive more highly engineered cars.
-spence

[Raven]

in your turbo/supercharged buggy for mpg

[Joe]

Originally Posted by spence

Well, that's not really true.

While it does all start out the same gas, "super" has more additive to that gas to actually make the gasoline require a higher pressure to combust.

-spence

At Xtra Mart in 80's, it all went into one tank. Some business people will lie to make extra money.