Here it comes........

[Backbeach Jake]

We're seeing the beginning of a civil war in Islam. It was bound to happen, our meddling just sped it up. Two of the words that I used aren't a precise as I would like "meddling" and "civil", but you get what I mean. Sadaamit held all the little factions apart, or killed one side or the other. Kept their heads down, so to speak. We come along without a clue to their culture and they go after one another like they have to catch up. It's gonna get bad and it's gonna spread.

[BigFish]

So in a nutshell...like I said....we should and should have left well enough alone!

[Backbeach Jake]

Originally Posted by BigFish

So in a nutshell...like I said....we should and should have left well enough alone!

We just kicked this turd open, shoulda left Iraq the hell alone until they actually did us harm. Now the stink is overwhelming us. We shoulda kept our focus in Afghanistan. They did do us harm. The real pity is the cheapness of life in this whole mess.

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Backbeach Jake

We just kicked this turd open, shoulda left Iraq the hell alone until they actually did us harm. Now the stink is overwhelming us. We shoulda kept our focus in Afghanistan. They did do us harm. The real pity is the cheapness of life in this whole mess.

Wait till they did us harm huh? So you want to wait for more 9/11's before we act? Wow, thats some scary thinking Like i said...Pre 9/11 thinking so many on the left have. And its down right scary.

[Backbeach Jake]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Wait till they did us harm huh? So you want to wait for more 9/11's before we act? Wow, thats some scary thinking Like i said...Pre 9/11 thinking so many on the left have. And its down right scary.

Again, we shoulda kept our focus in Afghanistan. We didn't get after 9/11. That failure only emboldened the Iraqi resistance in our present mess. I feel that "W" attacked Iraq as some weird family vendetta. His Dad,41, quit for a reason. I'm just saying that we shouldn't attack any country unless there is proof that they have done us harm, or are about to. Proof with actual facts. All these opinions here are valid BTW, these are confusing and dangerous times. Folks are only trying to sort it all out. Some look outwardly, some look inwardly. If we look inwardly and discover that we should bear some of the blame, then maybe we should be more careful in the future.

[Nebe]

Kill them with kindness.

[striperman36]

Any ethnic or religious group that has been oppressed does not have a good track record for maintaining peace after the yoke of oppression has been lifted.


Germany
Korea
Vietnam
Cambodia
Iran
Serbia
Iraq
Afghanistan

We could list back thru the centuries what the areas that have not been able to keep the peace. Why should we expect Iraq to be different.

Bill

[Backbeach Jake]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Kill them with kindness.

No, not what I had in mind at all.
1. Be prepared, militarily and intelligently and show it.
2. Treat other nations fairly.
3. If and when attacked, make an example of them so that even our allies cringe. But attack the offender and only the offender. No phantom WMDs. No they might. Just they did and now they're gone.

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Kill them with kindness.

Yes, Osama is really a softie deep down.