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Old 02-09-2006, 08:09 AM   #1
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saltheart and raven are on the right track. people who act like animals should be treated as animals.
Excellent, when do the public beheadings begin?

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Old 02-09-2006, 01:34 PM   #2
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Excellent, when do the public beheadings begin?

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Why don’t you get on a plane to Iraq and try your Diplomacy with them. I’m sure they would be happy to show you.

When exactly does the survival instinct kick in with Liberals? Careful , you may become extinct.

No offense Spence, Personally I think youre a nice guy, i just dont agree with your misplaced sympathy .
You need to have more empathy with your fellow Americans. We are on the same team. They are not your friends .They are the ones that would lob your head off in a heartbeat. Im sure youve seen the videos. As far as I am aware we have never taken hostages and beheaded them, so your remark is rather insulting to OUR collective intelligence, eventhough we may not have your 140+ IQ.

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Old 02-09-2006, 01:38 PM   #3
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What you see as compassion, I see as well reasoned behavior. They are not the same thing...

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Old 02-09-2006, 04:34 PM   #4
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How does one negotiate with someone whose sole aim in life is to kill you?

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Old 02-09-2006, 04:38 PM   #5
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How does one negotiate with someone whose sole aim in life is to kill you?
Don't get me wrong, I'll all for shooting them.

But there are really very few people so consumed with killing, it's the ones on the fence or who dabble in killing you have to worry about in the long run.

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Old 02-09-2006, 05:07 PM   #6
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Obviously no one is implying we start with a sit down with Al Queda. You start by seeing eye to eye with people you can see eye to eye with, THEN you put additional pressure on those you don't. Right now almost nobody likes us, and that's a BIG problem when it comes to putting leverage on rouge groups or nations. Military action is always kept in the back pocket ready to go, you just don't go swinging around your saber as aggressively as we do now. You rattle the saber, instead of pointing it in someone's face, especially since it's tough to find the exact people you're supposed to be pointing it at in the case of terrorists.

I'm not about sympathy, I'm about protecting the homefront through any means possible.

Unilateral pre-emptive retaliation and regime change don't seem to be working, maybe it's time to try something different. Seriously, what did regime change in Iraq do for me? A couple of my friends are dead, it cost me a lot of money to bomb stuff, gas prices are higher then ever, terrorists are even more inspired to kill me, and the Middle East overall is probably more unstable then it was before the war. What was that war all about anyway?
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Speaking of the war, we now all know there were no WMD in Iraq at the start of the war. Because of that, it's pretty safe to say the sanctions and diplomacy prior to the war worked.
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Excellent, when do the public beheadings begin?

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Seems to me they have been going on for quite awhile. (Daniel Pearl etc. etc.)
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Old 02-10-2006, 08:28 AM   #9
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Somebody gets it. We need to visibly be allies with Muslim countries such as Malaysia.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4699716.stm
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Russia is reaching out....they invited Hamas to Moscow to talk. Should we invite Hamas members to the White House for a nice formal dinner and talk? I dunno....something about that that just doesnt sit to well with me. Got bomb squad?
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Old 02-10-2006, 10:26 AM   #11
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Intersting note in this whole cartoon thingy. The cartoon was printed in Denmark in September and recieved little protest by local Muslims, any protests that happened were peaceful. Well i guess the head of one of the Danish mosques decided recently to send the cartoon to the middle east....yeah nice move buddy. Anyone doubt that guy wanted to fuel the fire? What kind of religios leader looks for violence? This is why the west views Islam the way it does, becuase they always appear to be looking for a clash of relgions/ cultures and try to stirr %$%$%$%$ up. oh, and the suicde bombings/ beheadings in the name of allah dont make thier religion look so peaceful either.

There's a muslim women here in the US who has a book out ripping radcal muslims for taking over a good religion. Well here you have a muslim women who is trying her best to stop the violence by condemning the radicals and she is getting all sorts of death threats from muslim leaders overseas. Religion of peace? I beg to differ. The muslin leaders are fueling the riots over there....
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Somebody gets it. We need to visibly be allies with Muslim countries such as Malaysia.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4699716.stm

Uhh, like the billions of $ the US spent on the Tsunami? Even my family kicked in $200. Think it mattered? Did anyone get more excited than some cartoons made them?
. Good thing they are not Christian, they might pissed at Jesus' role in South Park.
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Uhh, like the billions of $ the US spent on the Tsunami? Even my family kicked in $200. Think it mattered? Did anyone get more excited than some cartoons made them?
. Good thing they are not Christian, they might pissed at Jesus' role in South Park.

It's not just about money. Not directly anyways. Money is not going to settle down the extremists.
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