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BigFish · 02-02-2006, 07:41 AM

Global warming is a farce...total BS in my opinion!

afterhours · 02-02-2006, 07:43 AM

i feel hung out to dry by our government.

Slingah · 02-02-2006, 07:47 AM

I perdict between 4-5 dollars a gallon in two or so years. We will be saying " remember when it was 2.50??"

BigFish · 02-02-2006, 07:50 AM

If that happens I predict a revolution in which the government in this country is overthrown by the people....you think it can't happen???

piemma · 02-02-2006, 07:52 AM

Larry:
Not sure about Global warming. What I do know is that it's feb 2nd and I have spent aver $1100 on oil so far this Winter and it has been mild. if we go into the deep freeze this month I expect to be over $2000 this Winter to heat my house. I burn wood also but not as much nor as efficiently as I should.
I took out my wood stoves because the insurance company wanted to raise my home owner insurance rates. I may have to put one back in. It's still in the garage and would work fine.

BigFish · 02-02-2006, 07:56 AM

Piemma...how big is your house? Is it insulated? I have used almost a full tank at my house since I moved in August 31st....I think that is pretty good! I would put the stove back in!

piemma · 02-02-2006, 07:59 AM

It's about 2300 sq.ft. Well insulated but I live in the NW corner of RI. 710 ft elevation and about 10 degrees colder than Prov RI, on average. I'm not burning more oil...just spending more per gallon. Got a deliver Friday. $2.59 a gal for #2 fuel oil.
Friggin' ridiculous

BigFish · 02-02-2006, 08:03 AM

Damn! Thats expensive! Had I paid for my oil it would only have cost me about $425.00 so far. Just lucky I got some free oil from my job....I don't always...last year I had none and we spent about $1,600.00 heating the tiny uninsulated apartment we were in!

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RIROCKHOUND · 02-02-2006, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

Global warming is a farce...total BS in my opinion!

Interesting... there are alot of people with this sentiment...
I do believe that climate change is occuring, and there is the very distinct possibility that we are the cause of this. How much of it is natural variability still isnt clear in my mind.
Regardless. I think it is foolish for us as a society to not prepare for the possibility that these changes are coming/here and are permenant.
The fact that 5 previous EPA heads believe it, while this administration ignores it blows my mind.....

spence · 02-02-2006, 08:31 AM

You can debate the causes for Global Warming, but to ignore it and not prepare for coming changes to our way of life (like we all aren't) is beyond foolish.

The Administration by not even engaging in the Global discussion is doing great harm to our children's future. Clinton was in a position to do more, and should have...but that's last years news.

When blowhards like Rush Limbaugh proclaim that "God created the Earth so Man can't destroy it" I really can't believe what I'm hearing.

-spence

Nebe · 02-02-2006, 08:41 AM

ha, you should see my propane bill at work.. im going to have to raise my prices

RIROCKHOUND · 02-02-2006, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

When blowhards like Rush Limbaugh proclaim that "God created the Earth so Man can't destroy it" I really can't believe what I'm hearing.
-spence

OK; I'm not about to defend that right wing whack job.. but...
having an education in Geology, you begin to appreciate the time scales at work... if every nuke was launched today, as a species we'd be gone... but in a million or so years.. check back... it'd be a different planet, but the Earth would still be there... there just would be a noticable lack of Homo sapiens......

Flaptail · 02-02-2006, 09:00 AM

Just get used to bending over for two more years.

BigFish · 02-02-2006, 09:19 AM

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Skip N · 02-02-2006, 09:38 AM

Tell the people in Moscow that global warming is in effect!

spence · 02-02-2006, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

OK; I'm not about to defend that right wing whack job.. but...
having an education in Geology, you begin to appreciate the time scales at work... if every nuke was launched today, as a species we'd be gone... but in a million or so years.. check back... it'd be a different planet, but the Earth would still be there... there just would be a noticable lack of Homo sapiens......

Yea, but that's not his point.

The religious argument is that man isn't going to do such damage as to make the Earth inhospitable...and even if we do it's all moot when rapture happens...

-spence

RIROCKHOUND · 02-02-2006, 09:45 AM

I understand...
thats why I said I wasnt trying to defend him...
thank you for making it clear....

Skip.. spoken like someone who doesnt believe global warming without understanding it... there is alot of evidence that while the worldwide global temperature will rise, some areas may get colder...
again, though looking at one year is not global warming, you need to look over decades and centuries of trends.....

Pete_G · 02-02-2006, 09:56 AM

There been some great programming on this topic lately on Discovery. SOMETHING is happening out there, evidenced in particular in the areas of the North and South Pole. Life is changing there.

The cause? Certainly open to debate (sort of), but as a rule I always look for the most obvious answer, and that would be human influence. It's possible the Earth is gettting warmer from natural causes as well, but my money is on us, or a combination of the two. The risks are too high to bet against it.

Steve K · 02-02-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I understand...
thats why I said I wasnt trying to defend him...
thank you for making it clear....

Skip.. spoken like someone who doesnt believe global warming without understanding it... there is alot of evidence that while the worldwide global temperature will rise, some areas may get colder...
again, though looking at one year is not global warming, you need to look over decades and centuries of trends.....

Well said. Too many people spout off about something they know very little or nothing about. 2005 was the warmest year on record.

Skip N · 02-02-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I understand...
thats why I said I wasnt trying to defend him...
thank you for making it clear....

Skip.. spoken like someone who doesnt believe global warming without understanding it... there is alot of evidence that while the worldwide global temperature will rise, some areas may get colder...
again, though looking at one year is not global warming, you need to look over decades and centuries of trends.....

I think most people think of Global warming as the entire world getting warmer. This might be a dumb ass question but if the world is warming why whould some areas get colder? On the surface it doesnt make sense. Just an honest question.