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10-24-2005, 11:20 AM
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D'oh
Join Date: May 2004
Location: RI
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[i thought i posted this earlier, guess not, maybe it ended up somewhere else]
Did you guys get it on film? That would make a great episode of "on the hook!!!"
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i bent my wookie
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10-24-2005, 11:27 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,596
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FILM baby ...
big time film it and send it off
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10-24-2005, 06:05 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
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Pete,
I know you guys were filming for an episode of On The Water,
You should have turned the cameras to that for an episode !!!
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LETS GO BRANDON
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10-24-2005, 06:28 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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Exactly a damn friggin shame
Unfortunately, bycatch is self-policing unless there is an observer on boat.
These boats are restricted by the government not to sell what they vacuum up in their nets. Herring is a small mesh fishery and it's not unusual to see large amounts of any fish feeding on the herring to be discarded sometime it could be 50% of the haul. souther shrimping can be over 70% And you wonder why tuna follow them around
A popular agreement with commericals now is the the sporting community has a higher mortality with catch and release than discarded fish!! Right, I see that!!!!
If these commercials have the latest gear they can tell the mix of what is down there, each fish has a different acoustic signature. Would love to see that captured and reviewed along with gps coordinates of each haul back to
NMFS or DEP. Unfortunately, it's take over 10 years just to get trackers in scallopers!!!
Bill
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10-25-2005, 12:02 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 1,752
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Unfortunatly I don't think what you guys witnessed is illegal. Those trawlers threw the bass back because comm bass season is over and must be caught on hook and line. So they have to throw the bycatch over. It is a product of commercial dragging. I don't favor gillnets either but gillnetting is far more size specific than a dragger, species specific not. Science has come a long way with new types of drag nets that will catchmore of a specific species because of different colors and things at the beginning of a trawl say to scare cod away and catch more haddock that hang a bit higher than cod. Neat stuff. But I agree when you see that it is is an eye opener.
Just wait till next month when you guys will be into nice cod jigging between graves and the B-bouy. Then Dec 1st the inshore gillnetters will be there. And when they haul there nets and get more than there 600# or what ever they are allowed the rest will go over dead. I forget if they imposed a closer in this area with the meetings they had this past summer on this situation. Maybe it is closed to all fishing this year?? Don't know.
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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10-25-2005, 08:30 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
Posts: 8,663
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not sure how to prevent this type of bycatch. maybe some kind of equipment mods.? striper excluders? seems like a horrible waste in a time when so many do so much to help the bass population. reading this made me sick  |
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10-25-2005, 08:35 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
Posts: 4,145
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Lots of talk has been going on at MSBA. See this article o the website.
Officers of MSBA will be attending hearing to address this issue.
http://www.msba.net/main/index.php?o...=113&Itemid=39 |
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Things done at the last possible minute are done with the greatest possible information. Procrastination is, therefore, the most efficient means of doing things.
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10-30-2005, 11:27 PM
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Wave Jumper
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: On The Edge!
Posts: 443
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Originally Posted by afterhours
not sure how to prevent this type of bycatch. maybe some kind of equipment mods.? striper excluders? seems like a horrible waste in a time when so many do so much to help the bass population. reading this made me sick |
That's easy to figure out ... torpedo the vessel doing the damage.
If you don't have any torpedos onboard a molitov cocktail made from a beer bottle will work just as well. 
I'm sure it'll get their attention!  |
Insanity is a long and winding road ... I think I finally made it there.
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10-25-2005, 09:43 AM
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M.S.B.A.
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: I live in the Villiage of Hyannis in the Town of Barnstable in the Commonwealth of MA
Posts: 2,795
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Beamie,
It appears that there will be a spawning closure in the areas that you talk about with regard to the spawning aggregations of cod. I am pretty sure that all fishing rec & comm will be closed from Dec 1st to Jan 15. I testified on behalf of MSBA in favor ofd the closure last night in Gloucester...there is a hearing in Plymouth tonight
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Originally Posted by beamie
Just wait till next month when you guys will be into nice cod jigging between graves and the B-bouy. Then Dec 1st the inshore gillnetters will be there. And when they haul there nets and get more than there 600# or what ever they are allowed the rest will go over dead. I forget if they imposed a closer in this area with the meetings they had this past summer on this situation. Maybe it is closed to all fishing this year?? Don't know.
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"It is impossible to complain and to achieve at the same time"--Basic Patrick (on a good day)
 
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10-25-2005, 02:44 PM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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As beamie says, it's the way the regs work today.
It used to be worse, just go down south and shrimp at 70% discard
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