GAS!!!!!

[macojoe]

Yea... and what really sticks in your craw we're probably funding terrorism with these prices...who cares as long as we don't have to look at those unsightly windfarms

they may be a little unsightly, but you will see them and more and more!!
I am not saying that they are the best or only power alternative, but we need to do something and do it soon!!

[Bigcat]

Were is all the Iraqi oil?

[bassmaster]

i dunno lets just take it and have free gas
i say bull sh!t to gas prices

[beachwalker]

Originally Posted by bassmaster

i dunno lets just take it and have free gas
i say bull sh!t to gas prices

that would be sweet....


can I have some bluefeesh plugs too ?

[RIROCKHOUND]

BW;
HOW do you do 3-400 miles a week on that lil' sandpile?
I do 350ish a week and I dont live on an island...

BTW I am mildly envious of your sandpile; you have onshore conditions somewhere ....when it blows NW

Oh and Gas sucks, my exploder does 16 in town; weighing the benifits costwise of a small P/U with a 4 or 6cldr....

[beachwalker]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

BW;
HOW do you do 3-400 miles a week on that lil' sandpile?
I do 350ish a week and I dont live on an island...

BTW I am mildly envious of your sandpile; you have onshore conditions somewhere ....when it blows NW

Oh and Gas sucks, my exploder does 16 in town; weighing the benifits costwise of a small P/U with a 4 or 6cldr....

Well if I live mid -island and have three jobs going at the same time I can do 50-75 miles in one day unless I chain myself to one job. Then it is 22 miles from where I live to GP/Coatue (where there aren't any fish by the way. I go sunbathing) so multi on that 3 -4 nights a week and you see ?

Yes we have onshore conditions somewhere everyday.....

[RIROCKHOUND]

Ok, fine if you dont live on the coast I wont call ya a Yuppie any more

[Raven]

according to the history chanel show i watched (yesterday) about global warming...

and it talked about how the worlds use of fosil fuels is the cause of it...
with the build up of c02 in the atmosphere....blah blah blah

and how eventually the gulf stream will stop altogether because the difference in ocean temperatures will no longer be present....
throwing europe into a permanent ice age...

((that'll mean the striped bass may not head south in fall any longer... ))

but as early as 2019 we might run out of oil all together.... and up until then the price of oil/fuel will be astronomical....compared to today's prices...
wind mill farms will be everywhere because its renewable...energy
i was stunned to tell you the truth and still am...

because "today" our food is GROWN with fertilizer made from oil as is all plastic materials and is the basis for our whole economic system.

so this little price hike is NOTHING.

[RIROCKHOUND]

The conveyor belt theory (the gulf stream thing) happening any time soon is probably BS; you need a dramatic (HUGE) input of freshwater to even impact the gulf stream. There have been events in the past (geologic time, since the last ice age) where this has happened; the most well know was the Younger Dryas, about 11,000 yrs BP, (catastrophic draining of a glacial lake). recent arguments by well known scientists (Richard Alley at Penn State) are that slow steady increases/changes (like global warming) may have similar effects around 8.2ka.... that means that MAYBE you can cause enough slow change to get the same result as a sudden impact, in that case it would all be about reaching some 'critical threshold' of climate change.....

As far as running out of oil; they said we had 30yrs left 20-30yrs ago; with technology changing we are getting oil from places we didnt think possible; costs will go up, but I think some things in the forseeable future will still require oil. I'm not an Oil geologist by any stretch. While eventually we will run out of it, I think that the 2019 date is assuming constant technology. remember that probably the most invested research is on oil location, extraction and refining.

That being said, we NEED alternative fuel cars, hydrogen etc...
Hell, a few decards ago, some people thought we'd be driving cars with small nuclear reactors that never need fuel... imagine that....

Bryan
"Ranting, Rambling and Raving Geologist"