Discussion on Iraq / Guard - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

afterhours · 06-26-2005, 05:49 PM

i hate these threads but... i,ve always wondered why we put the guard ( barely trained civilians - half of them for the $ other half to serve country) as opposed to our professiomal soldiers that are in s. korea and other areas and use the guard to take their posts. maybe it's just me but i think it makes sense to put the pros in. deepest sympathies to all who have lost loved ones in the service of our great nation.

Nebe · 06-26-2005, 06:02 PM

afterhours, they wont put the pros in because they are too valuable. the word cannon fodder comes to mind. When the backdoor draft loophole ends, the pros might come in, otherwise you can count on a draft if resistance continues if not grows.

Nebe · 06-26-2005, 06:21 PM

I just wonder how many people are regretting our decision to invade iraq..

Squidkids dad, some would argue that the terrorist started this. They did throw the first stone, but what did the terrorists have to do with Iraq??? Not much IMO. There are a select few people making billions of $$$ of of this war, remember that. Bush calls them 'his base'

I feel horrible for that girl who died. i just hope she died for the right reasons.

Mike P · 06-26-2005, 07:57 PM

If you think the Guard and Reserves are "barely trained", you don't know your ass from third base

afterhours · 06-26-2005, 08:15 PM

mike- short boot camp and 2 weeks a year is enough training? maybe i don't know my arse from 3rd base.

Squid kids Dad · 06-26-2005, 08:23 PM

Eben...You dont think the terrosists started this and in turn led us to Iraq ? Why do you think we are there ? Oh for oil???

spence · 06-26-2005, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Squid kids Dad

Eben...You dont think the terrosists started this and in turn led us to Iraq ? Why do you think we are there ?

I'm really fighting the urge to rip into this one

Regarding the training of the Guard.

I'd wager the Guard and Reserves are trained pretty damn well, but are they trained for the right mission? Clearly this has let to problems at Abu Grahib...

-spence

Nebe · 06-26-2005, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Squid kids Dad

Eben...You dont think the terrosists started this and in turn led us to Iraq ? Why do you think we are there ? Oh for oil???

Correct me if i am wrong, but there was never a link to alqueda in Iraq. why are we not chasing osama??? It is all a grand diversion for profeteering. The only way this is benefiting us in relation to terrorism is that its drawing them there and not here.
Sure, oil has something to do with it.. oh, not cheap oil.... really really expensive oil. Only a small group are making $ off of it, and WE are suffering for it... especially me, but thats another story.....

PaulS · 06-29-2005, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Squid kids Dad

Eben...You dont think the terrosists started this and in turn led us to Iraq ? Why do you think we are there ? Oh for oil???

What revisionism! I thought we were looking for WMDs? What terrorists? There has never been ANY link btw Assama and 9/11. Bush wanted to go to war to finish something his father didn't. He morphed the pursuit of Al Qaeda into a war w/Saddam. Helen Thomas, who has been a white house correspondent as long as anyone has said that Bush was the only president she has covered who wanted to go to war - sad. But hey, don't worry, according to Cheney the insurgency is in its "last throes".