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04-20-2022, 07:40 PM
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the gesture might not mean he was poking fun at the guys condition, as he aimed that identical gesture at several people over the years who didn’t have that disability. the video is there paul. just watch it and you can decide what it means. regardless, it’s a stupid gesture meant to belittle
people who dared to criticize him. fair to call him out for that. But there’s a great chance that he had no idea this guy had any physical
challenges, therefore a great chance he wasn’t poking fun at his disability.
there are a large list of names you can call trump apologists. why not pick something that’s not deeply offensive to these families who haven’t done anything to you?
you’re acting like, well, like trump.
if you want to make fun of those who think trump is a saint, heck i don’t blame you. i do it all the time.
but there are a hundred insulting words you could have used, that special olympics doesn’t consider hate speech to that community.
seems like you went way out of your way to insist on that one specific word, then you stubbornly refuse to concede that there’s anything wrong with it.
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04-21-2022, 07:13 AM
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the gesture might not mean he was poking fun at the guys condition, as he aimed that identical gesture at several people over the years who didn’t have that disability. the video is there paul. just watch it and you can decide what it means. regardless, it’s a stupid gesture meant to belittle
people who dared to criticize him. fair to call him out for that. But there’s a great chance that he had no idea this guy had any physical
challenges, therefore a great chance he wasn’t poking fun at his disability. He knew who the guy was and the reporter said they met repeatedly. So your saying it was just a coincidence?
there are a large list of names you can call trump apologists. why not pick something that’s not deeply offensive to these families who haven’t done anything to you?
you’re acting like, well, like trump.
if you want to make fun of those who think trump is a saint, heck i don’t blame you. i do it all the time.
but there are a hundred insulting words you could have used, that special olympics doesn’t consider hate speech to that community. And you use 000s of insulting words here - Including imbecile. So use imbecile the next time you volunteer at special olympics and see the reaction you get or one of the many words you use to insult woman around any normal woman and see the reaction you get. I used it once and you use vile words repeatedly so stop lecturing me.
seems like you went way out of your way to insist on that one specific word, then you stubbornly refuse to concede that there’s anything wrong with it.I have never said there is nothing wrong with it so stop lying (again)
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In an interview on Thursday, Mr. Kovaleski said that he met with Mr. Trump repeatedly when he was a reporter for The Daily News covering the developer’s business career in the late 1980s, before joining The Post. “Donald and I were on a first-name basis for years,” Mr. Kovaleski said. “I’ve interviewed him in his office,” he added. “I’ve talked to him at press conferences. All in all, I would say around a dozen times, I’ve interacted with him as a reporter while I was at The Daily News.”
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04-21-2022, 07:31 AM
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In an interview on Thursday, Mr. Kovaleski said that he met with Mr. Trump repeatedly when he was a reporter for The Daily News covering the developer’s business career in the late 1980s, before joining The Post. “Donald and I were on a first-name basis for years,” Mr. Kovaleski said. “I’ve interviewed him in his office,” he added. “I’ve talked to him at press conferences. All in all, I would say around a dozen times, I’ve interacted with him as a reporter while I was at The Daily News.”
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"So your saying it was just a coincidence?"
My god, man, for the tenth time...What I'm saying is there's video evidence of Trump making the same physical gestures over the years, to mock other people who he didn't like. Someone here posted the video. So obviously that's Trump's "go-to" gesture when he wants to mock somebody.
Either way, it's a very immature, stupid way to respond to someone who disagrees with you. But it's compelling evidence that Trump wasn't mocking the guy's disability.
Now, I'm not saying that's not what Trump was doing, either. He has made fun of people for being short and for looking funny, so he's not above making fun of someone's disability. But there's a meaningful chance that's not what he was doing here.
If you want to bash Trump, you could fill the oceans with irrefutable examples of him behaving horribly. We don't need to stretch the truth to show how deeply, deeply flawed he is.
If you find that unfair, I don't know what to tell you. I can criticize him every single time he does something disgusting. I don't need to reflexively defend every single thing he does, like you guys all do with democrats. But I can also admit when he does something good. You guys can't, and that's TDS.
"And you use 000s of insulting words here - Including imbecile. So use imbecile the next time you volunteer at special olympics and see the reaction you get or one of the many words you use to insult woman "
For the second time, if you can post a link from Special Olympics saying imbecile is hate speech, I will never use that word again, and I'll feel bad for having ever used it. But I couldn't find such a news story. As we both know, I did find a clip from Special Olympics saying clearly that the language you use, does constitute hate speech towards their community.
You used that word, not me. Your language, not mine, is universally considered to be hurtful to those people.
You're the only person on this forum that I know of, who has gone tattling to the moderators about what others (only the conservatives, naturally) have said. But you insist it's OK for you to use that word and other similar language.
You're like the kid in school who does something, and when someone does it back to him, he goes tattling to the grown-ups. Who doesn't love the kid who does that? Right?
I don't insult "women", there's that lying again. I insulted Hilary, who is as morally bankrupt as a person can get. She married a predator, she lied to protect him (said the republicans were framing him with the Lewinski story) and then she went on national TV and slut-shamed his victims. Classy! She's a morally bankrupt c--t.
That's not insulting "women". It's insulting her, and she deserves it every bit as much as Trump does.
You can't admit that, because she's a democrat. That's all that matters to you.
Why are all women tied to criticism of one woman? Why is it insulting all women, if I insult one woman?
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04-21-2022, 08:04 AM
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"So your saying it was just a coincidence?"
My god, man, for the tenth time...What I'm saying is there's video evidence of Trump making the same physical gestures over the years, to mock other people who he didn't like. Someone here posted the video. So obviously that's Trump's "go-to" gesture when he wants to mock somebody.So What. He knew the guy and he still did it!! My God don't you understand for the tenth time?
Either way, it's a very immature, stupid way to respond to someone who disagrees with you. But it's compelling evidence that Trump wasn't mocking the guy's disability.
Now, I'm not saying that's not what Trump was doing, either. He has made fun of people for being short and for looking funny, so he's not above making fun of someone's disability. But there's a meaningful chance that's not what he was doing here.
If you want to bash Trump, you could fill the oceans with irrefutable examples of him behaving horribly. We don't need to stretch the truth to show how deeply, deeply flawed he is.
If you find that unfair, I don't know what to tell you. I can criticize him every single time he does something disgusting. I don't need to reflexively defend every single thing he does, like you guys all do with democrats. But I can also admit when he does something good. You guys can't, and that's TDS.I don't defend them and thats a lie. You post constantly and bash Dems constantly. So I pretty much ignore most of what you post. However, using a 33 years old example of Trump's generosity is too much while ignoring the self dealing w/his charities is crazy.
"And you use 000s of insulting words here - Including imbecile. So use imbecile the next time you volunteer at special olympics and see the reaction you get or one of the many words you use to insult woman "
For the second time, if you can post a link from Special Olympics saying imbecile is hate speech, I will never use that word again, and I'll feel bad for having ever used it. But I couldn't find such a news story. As we both know, I did find a clip from Special Olympics saying clearly that the language you use, does constitute hate speech towards their community.I don't care whether there is a link or not.. Trying using it there and see the reaction you get.
You used that word, not me. Your language, not mine, is universally considered to be hurtful to those people.
You're the only person on this forum that I know of, who has gone tattling to the moderators about what others (only the conservatives, naturally) have said. But you insist it's OK for you to use that word and other similar language.I didn't tattle. So your lying again. Bruce posted the rules in response to the vile posts from SeaDangles and I asked why bother posting the rules if they allow Seadangles to do what he wants and ignores the rules.
You're like the kid in school who does something, and when someone does it back to him, he goes tattling to the grown-ups. Who doesn't love the kid who does that? Right?And your an angry boy who when called out about using a 33 year old story from another century lashes out and starts insulting people. Maybe you were on your period and were menstruating (to use the word you throw out there constantly) - why are you so infatuated w/woman's periods that you mention it constantly. seems bizarre.
I don't insult "women", there's that lying again. I insulted Hilary, who is as morally bankrupt as a person can get. She married a predator, she lied to protect him (said the republicans were framing him with the Lewinski story) and then she went on national TV and slut-shamed his victims. Classy! She's a morally bankrupt c--t. See that is insulting but you think it is ok. You used to say the same type of things about Rosie D. also. but in your mind it is ok.
That's not insulting "women". It's insulting her, and she deserves it every bit as much as Trump does.
You can't admit that, because she's a democrat. That's all that matters to you.No woman deserves to be called that.
Why are all women tied to criticism of one woman? Why is it insulting all women, if I insult one woman?
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I just gave you an example of someone else you insulted constantly. So you just got caught lying again.
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04-21-2022, 08:26 AM
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I just gave you an example of someone else you insulted constantly. So you just got caught lying again.
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WDMSO said there’s no good in Trump.
I posted a nice story of trump donating his jet, after the commercial
airlines all told this family to go kick rocks.
you were dismissive of the story because it was old
So i posted many, many links of his recent generosity.
You said chump change for a billionaire
I agreed, but asked why you didn’t care that biden and harris were shown to be stingy.
you claimed to not know what i was referring to.
a perfect example. you deny and dismiss everything that could
make trump look like a human being. and you deny and dismiss anything that paints democrats in a negative light.
doesn’t matter what it is, the conservative is always wrong and the liberal is always right.
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04-21-2022, 08:47 AM
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WDMSO said there’s no good in Trump.
I posted a nice story of trump donating his jet, after the commercial
airlines all told this family to go kick rocks.
you were dismissive of the story because it was oldyes, 33 years old and for a billionaire minor
So i posted many, many links of his recent generosity.
You said chump change for a billionaireIt is
I agreed, but asked why you didn’t care that biden and harris were shown to be stingy.Bc you wrote about Trump so that is who we were talking about.
you claimed to not know what i was referring to.Not sure what you mean here
a perfect example. you deny and dismiss everything that could
make trump look like a human being. and you deny and dismiss anything that paints democrats in a negative light.
doesn’t matter what it is, the conservative is always wrong and the liberal is always right.
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And his 10K donation is nothing for a billionaire. He self dealt w/his charity and was ripping it off.
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04-21-2022, 08:59 AM
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And his 10K donation is nothing for a billionaire. He self dealt w/his charity and was ripping it off.
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i’m not saying Trump is a good person. you keep responding as if you somehow think that’s what i’m saying.
he has done some good things. if
you want to argue a billionaire should do more good than he does, i agree with you 100%. A hundred percent.
my intent wasn’t to show he is good. My intent was to show that juts wrong to say he’s never done anything good. My intent was to show that he has, and improved it beyond any doubt.
Saying he should do more good, is a different question. A very different question.
Everything has to be all or nothing with you guys. He has to be pure evil.
Why does trump advocate for school choice? His kids are never going to be stuck in crappy urban schools, so it’s never going to benefit him or his kids. Yet he’s passionate about school
choice.
Why?
You might argue that he’s only doing it to placate his conservative base.
But then why did he advocate for the criminal justice reform that liberals have wanted for decades, and worth noting they obama
didn’t give liberals even though the democrats controlled congress for his first 2 years?
Many conservatives hated trumps criminal justice reform, including me. But he did it.
Why?
And why can’t liberals give him credit for delivering something they have been asking for, and which Bush and Obama refused to give them?
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04-21-2022, 08:35 AM
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I just gave you an example of someone else you insulted constantly. So you just got caught lying again.
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"I don't care whether there is a link or not.. "
You don't care that the Special Olympics begs people not to use that word. Good for you! Don't let them tell you what to do.
"I didn't tattle. So your lying again. Bruce posted the rules in response to the vile posts from SeaDangles and I asked why bother posting the rules if they allow Seadangles to do what he wants and ignores the rules."
Oh, I see. You didn't "tattle". You merely asked the moderator why he wasn't punishing someone (naturally a conservative!) for breaking the rules. And that's very, very different from tattling, because.........
What you did, is the textbook definition of tattling.
"See that is insulting but you think it is ok."
I don't deny that I insulted Hilary. That was deliberate. I deny that I'm insulting anyone else, when I insult Hilary. When I am very obviously singling out Hilary, it's not my fault if that's traumatic for your delicate sensibilities.
Are you insulting all men when you insult Trump?
So it's OK for you to insult a specific individual. But when I do it, somehow I'm insulting the entire demographic that the person falls into.
When liberals insult, say, Sarah Palin, they are only insulting her, so that's OK. But when I insult Hilary, you say I am insulting all women.
That just reeks of consistency and common sense, Paul.
It's totally fine for you to use hate speech, but you cry to TDF when Dangles does it.
Everything is always OK when the left does it.
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04-21-2022, 08:44 AM
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"I don't care whether there is a link or not.. "
You don't care that the Special Olympics begs people not to use that word. Good for you! Don't let them tell you what to do.So when are you going to use the word imbecile at the next SO event?
"I didn't tattle. So your lying again. Bruce posted the rules in response to the vile posts from SeaDangles and I asked why bother posting the rules if they allow Seadangles to do what he wants and ignores the rules."
Oh, I see. You didn't "tattle". You merely asked the moderator why he wasn't punishing someone (naturally a conservative!) for breaking the rules. And that's very, very different from tattling, because.....bc the hypocrisy of his posting the rules and then ignoring them is funny....
What you did, is the textbook definition of tattling. No it's not but say what you want bc I think you are a d ick
"See that is insulting but you think it is ok."
I don't deny that I insulted Hilary. That was deliberate. I deny that I'm insulting anyone else, when I insult Hilary. When I am very obviously singling out Hilary, it's not my fault if that's traumatic for your delicate sensibilities.
Are you insulting all men when you insult Trump?
So it's OK for you to insult a specific individual. But when I do it, somehow I'm insulting the entire demographic that the person falls into.
When liberals insult, say, Sarah Palin, they are only insulting her, so that's OK. But when I insult Hilary, you say I am insulting all women.
That just reeks of consistency and common sense, Paul.
It's totally fine for you to use hate speechI used it once - far less than you used imbecile, but you cry to TDF when Dangles does it. I didn't cry I asked
Everything is always OK when the left does it.
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No, one ever said it was, did they?
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