national murder rate highest in 25 years

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

agreed, the next civil war will be a whole lot shorter than the first one.

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“good news is that if these leftists ever decide they actually want to fight it out over America...it won't last very long”
Scott

So the guys who aren’t proud enough of their beliefs to admit them in public or at work, think that the cosplay warriors would put up a fight

https://youtu.be/oI-BoEca2bE
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

“good news is that if these leftists ever decide they actually want to fight it out over America...it won't last very long”
Scott

So the guys who aren’t proud enough of their beliefs to admit them in public or at work, think that the cosplay warriors would put up a fight

https://youtu.be/oI-BoEca2bE
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Pete, you guys denying that media and academia have a liberal bias, makes exactly as much sense as my denying that foxnews has a conservative bias. Anyone who'd say that, is both an idiot and a liar. You'd deny the sky is blue if the DNC told you to.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You'd deny the sky is blue if the DNC told you to.

he would cut and paste what they wrote and then present it as his own thought and then tell you that you are programmed to say stuff

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Pete, you guys denying that media and academia have a liberal bias, makes exactly as much sense as my denying that foxnews has a conservative bias. Anyone who'd say that, is both an idiot and a liar. You'd deny the sky is blue if the DNC told you to.

Academia has a politically Progressive bias, not a politically liberal bias. Progressivism is not liberal in the classical sense of that word. Progressivism is authoritarian in its nature.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Academia has a politically Progressive bias, not a politically liberal bias. Progressivism is not liberal in the classical sense of that word. Progressivism is authoritarian in its nature.

If you want to be socially progressive, you have to support initiatives that foster social progress, like education equality, women’s health resources, criminal justice reform, universal healthcare, workplace equality, and so on. These initiatives either cost taxpayer money, require governmentally enforced regulation, or both. If you believe in smaller government and want to pay less in taxes, how do you propose social progress be made? Because if there’s no social progress funding, there’s no social progress. Passive support is no support at all.

You can be socially conservative and fiscally conservative, but if you’re fiscally conservative, you can only be either socially conservative or a person who doesn’t give a #^&#^&#^&#^&. And not giving a #^&#^&#^&#^& is not progressive.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If you want to be socially progressive, you have to support initiatives that foster social progress, like education equality, women’s health resources, criminal justice reform, universal healthcare, workplace equality, and so on. These initiatives either cost taxpayer money, require governmentally enforced regulation, or both. If you believe in smaller government and want to pay less in taxes, how do you propose social progress be made? Because if there’s no social progress funding, there’s no social progress. Passive support is no support at all.

You can be socially conservative and fiscally conservative, but if you’re fiscally conservative, you can only be either socially conservative or a person who doesn’t give a #^&#^&#^&#^&. And not giving a #^&#^&#^&#^& is not progressive.
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In other words . . . you admit that Progressivism is authoritarian. And, like all good authoritarians, you claim your brand is for the good of society.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

In other words . . . you admit that Progressivism is authoritarian. And, like all good authoritarians, you claim your brand is for the good of society.

No, do you believe that no social progress is good.
At what point in time should it be halted or do you propose that we be time warped back to?
Are you like some here, wishing for the 50s and Eisenhower…..who identified as a progressive conservative(oops)
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

No, do you believe that no social progress is good.
At what point in time should it be halted or do you propose that we be time warped back to?
Are you like some here, wishing for the 50s and Eisenhower…..who identified as a progressive conservative(oops)
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The manner of achieving social progress makes all the difference. And the definition of "progress," like the definition of all socially loaded words can be the propaganda that supports the method.

That's my fortune cookie wisdom. Take it or leave it.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If you want to be socially progressive, you have to support initiatives that foster social progress, like education equality, women’s health resources, criminal justice reform, universal healthcare, workplace equality, and so on. These initiatives either cost taxpayer money, require governmentally enforced regulation, or both. If you believe in smaller government and want to pay less in taxes, how do you propose social progress be made? Because if there’s no social progress funding, there’s no social progress. Passive support is no support at all.

You can be socially conservative and fiscally conservative, but if you’re fiscally conservative, you can only be either socially conservative or a person who doesn’t give a #^&#^&#^&#^&. And not giving a #^&#^&#^&#^& is not progressive.
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sure! conservatives HATE equality ( despite opposing slavery and jim crow), conservatives really despise women’s health. we really hate it when women are healthy.

just say “abortion”. if there’s nothing immoral about abortion, why do you feel the need to hide it in a euphemism like “women’s health”?

school equality? sorry, liberals adamantly oppose school choice.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

sure! conservatives HATE equality ( despite opposing slavery and jim crow), conservatives really despise women’s health. we really hate it when women are healthy.

just say “abortion”. if there’s nothing immoral about abortion, why do you feel the need to hide it in a euphemism like “women’s health”?

school equality? sorry, liberals adamantly oppose school choice.
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No Jim,
Radical Republicans ended slavery, not conservatives.
And the end of the Jim Crow era with the aid of the Northern Democrats pushed Southern Conservatives to the Republican Party.

I don’t have any need to hide my views on abortion, I don’t think we’re required to believe in your religion.

Sorry but I think public education is important, not perfect but needed.
Left to their own conservatives would have no federal support for education.
And then if every state was as poorly educated as Republican controlled states, we’d have more Trumps and DeSantis’
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I don’t have any need to hide my views on abortion, I don’t think we’re required to believe in your religion.


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What a cowardly dodge, and you're smart enough to know it.

We don't differ in "women's health". We differ on abortion. You chose to hide behind a very benign-sounding euphemism, which is what your side does constantly.

Why? Why hide behind the label "choice" or "health"? Obviously, conservatives are in favor of choice and health. I'm not asking you to join my religion, I'm asking why you felt the need to be deceptive about your position.

It's all nonsense.

[Got Stripers]

Back before the internet, I’d go to the comics in the Sunday paper first, nothing better than a good laugh to start your day. Now I come to the SB political forum to chuckle watching you two girls pee In each other’s pool thread after pathetic thread. I will give Pete credit for persistence, Jim cudos for always being right and Wayne credit for attempting to have a respectable debate. Ross will chime in occasionally to attempt to bring in civility, but that is of course an exercise in futility. Scott loves to show how SMART (said in a hard Boston accent) he is, always on the lookout for a chance to jump on someone not watching out for spell check errors and always the occasional do drop in by Dad and others with pearls of wisdom.

And then there is DeBarr, just a trolling Midwest crappie fisherman who absolutely loves listening to himself.

Carry on I’m enjoying the #^&#^&#^&#^& show.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Back before the internet,

oh good...old people stories

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Back before the internet, I’d go to the comics in the Sunday paper first, nothing better than a good laugh to start your day. Now I come to the SB political forum to chuckle watching you two girls pee In each other’s pool thread after pathetic thread. I will give Pete credit for persistence, Jim cudos for always being right and Wayne credit for attempting to have a respectable debate. Ross will chime in occasionally to attempt to bring in civility, but that is of course an exercise in futility. Scott loves to show how SMART (said in a hard Boston accent) he is, always on the lookout for a chance to jump on someone not watching out for spell check errors and always the occasional do drop in by Dad and others with pearls of wisdom.

And then there is DeBarr, just a trolling Midwest crappie fisherman who absolutely loves listening to himself.

Carry on I’m enjoying the #^&#^&#^&#^& show.

so when you come on, lob baseless insults and scurry off, that’s ok.

but whenever anyone you disagree with posts here, it’s a character flaw.

sorry i missed that memo that made you overlord of all things here, but i must say, that’s a nice position for you to be in. Good work if you can get it.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so when you come on, lob baseless insults and scurry off, that’s ok.

but whenever anyone you disagree with posts here, it’s a character flaw.

sorry i missed that memo that made you overlord of all things here, but i must say, that’s a nice position for you to be in. Good work if you can get it.
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He's in his mindless comfort zone. A gallon of salty buttered up popcorn, a preferably funny show . . . and he's good to go.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

He's in his mindless comfort zone. A gallon of salty buttered up popcorn, a preferably funny show . . . and he's good to go.

don’t forget his Sunday funnies.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so when you come on, lob baseless insults and scurry off, that’s ok.

but whenever anyone you disagree with posts here, it’s a character flaw.

sorry i missed that memo that made you overlord of all things here, but i must say, that’s a nice position for you to be in. Good work if you can get it.
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I think Jim’s 👮 worried that you want his badge.
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