Are the democrats trying to lose?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

of course it’s all trumps fault! he’s still living in your head rent free. still obsessed with him.
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Oh I do worry about what’s happening in this country

Let’s be clear what happened here: Basically, once Trump realized he couldn’t keep secret his support for and coordination of the Jan 6 attack on the Capitol, he just decided to embrace it and call it a protest.

So now, every R will have to either embrace Jan 6 as a valid form of protesting a “stolen” election (as Trump now has) or condemn it as wrong.

Their line has changed so many times. First: Antifa. Then: wrong, but not an insurrection. Then: bad apples but the police let them in.

These are unserious people who are trying to come up with any line that will allow them to stay in good graces with an increasingly deranged base while speaking through the mainstream channels of normal society and institutions.

You know whose line hasn’t changed?

Liz Cheney’s

Trump’s now explicit embrace of the January 6 attack this many months later is just the latest example of what is becoming the newest truism in American politics…

Never Trumpism is never wrong.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Oh I do worry about what’s happening in this country

Let’s be clear what happened here: Basically, once Trump realized he couldn’t keep secret his support for and coordination of the Jan 6 attack on the Capitol, he just decided to embrace it and call it a protest.

So now, every R will have to either embrace Jan 6 as a valid form of protesting a “stolen” election (as Trump now has) or condemn it as wrong.

Their line has changed so many times. First: Antifa. Then: wrong, but not an insurrection. Then: bad apples but the police let them in.

These are unserious people who are trying to come up with any line that will allow them to stay in good graces with an increasingly deranged base while speaking through the mainstream channels of normal society and institutions.

You know whose line hasn’t changed?

Liz Cheney’s

Trump’s now explicit embrace of the January 6 attack this many months later is just the latest example of what is becoming the newest truism in American politics…

Never Trumpism is never wrong.
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how many elected republicans can you point to, who are saying g that january 6th was a valid form of protest?

“never trumpism is never wrong.”

never trumpers planted fake racists in the VA republican governor candidates side. that’s not wrong?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

how many elected republicans can you point to, who are saying g that january 6th was a valid form of protest?

“never trumpism is never wrong.”

never trumpers planted fake racists in the VA republican governor candidates side. that’s not wrong?
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Ever hear of Gaetz, Gohmert and MTG?

Wasn’t that 5 people in VA, I assume it’s all over the media that feeds your opinions
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Ever hear of Gaetz, Gohmert and MTG?

Wasn’t that 5 people in VA, I assume it’s all over the media that feeds your opinions
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it was 5 people, planted there by an anti trump group. i’m not sure why an anti trump group has such a problem with the republican running for governor in VA, he’s not Trump.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

it was 5 people, planted there by an anti trump group. i’m not sure why an anti trump group has such a problem with the republican running for governor in VA, he’s not Trump.
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Because when people who are never Trump were asked, Why are you as a Republican not for Youngkin?

I worked for and supported many Republicans. I’m mostly proud to have done so. But if being a good Republican today means supporting Trump or acquiescing in and enabling Trumpist authoritarianism, I say: No. Country first.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Because when people who are never Trump were asked, Why are you as a Republican not for Youngkin?

I worked for and supported many Republicans. I’m mostly proud to have done so. But if being a good Republican today means supporting Trump or acquiescing in and enabling Trumpist authoritarianism, I say: No. Country first.
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you’re saying all republicans are acquiescing to authoritarianism? so what are liberals for, smaller government.

backwards as always.

trump was many many bad things. he wasnt a dictator. a dictator wouldn’t let the media trash him the way they trashed trump. first thing a republican dictator would
do, is get rid of the media. but they never do that.

Duh.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you’re saying all republicans are acquiescing to authoritarianism


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The democrats/left aren’t acting like authoritarians….nope…not at all…lalalalala
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you’re saying all republicans are acquiescing to authoritarianism? so what are liberals for, smaller government.

backwards as always.

trump was many many bad things. he wasnt a dictator. a dictator wouldn’t let the media trash him the way they trashed trump. first thing a republican dictator would
do, is get rid of the media. but they never do that.

Duh.
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Trump valued personal fealty while despising fidelity to oaths to the Constitution. He failed to see value in selfless actions that benefit others.

But you think he should be worshipped because he’s a billionaire and he worships the same things as you.

But since you keep going on--wishfully or disingenuously--about how GOP governors like Abbot and DeSantis are the future and there's NOTHING authoritarian about the former guy or them: You guys good with the TX vigilante law? You fine with FL professors being denied academic freedom?

You’re absolutely fine with both of those things since it serves your political purposes. Authoritarianism is fine if it's right wing authoritarianism, right?
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