oil at $82 and going up like an elevator

[wdmso]

U.S. Regular All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon) In 2012 Jan 3.380 feb 3.579 mar 3.852 apr 3.900 may 3.732 June 3.539 July 3.439 aug 3.722 sept 3.849 oct 3.746 nov 3.452 dec 3.310

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le...te_nus_dpg&f=m

And of course the right is trying to suggest these gas prices have never happened before ! So be afraid
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

U.S. Regular All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon) In 2012 Jan 3.380 feb 3.579 mar 3.852 apr 3.900 may 3.732 June 3.539 July 3.439 aug 3.722 sept 3.849 oct 3.746 nov 3.452 dec 3.310

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le...te_nus_dpg&f=m

And of course the right is trying to suggest these gas prices have never happened before ! So be afraid
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PLEASE tell me who said those prices have never happened before? Please?

i’m not sure if you’ve ever worked in the private sector, but surging costs aren’t a good thing. in public labor unions, you can just confiscate everything you need from your neighbors with force of law, so you don’t care. In the real world, surging costs make it harder to do business. So yes, there can be a reason to be concerned when oil prices spike.

just because it’s not a winning political issue for you, doesn’t mean it’s not legitimate.

Wayne is there anything that paints liberalism in a negative light, which is true? or is everything that helps conservatives, necessarily a manufactured lie?

When you have to resort to blatant lies, that means you can’t respond to the truth. also means you’re not a serious person.

Have you ever once said “the democrats blew that, that’s going to hurt them”? Have you ever said that, on a single issue? Ever?

We all understand it would make your life easier if every single thing that happened, painted democrats in a favorable light and republicans in an evil light. But real life isn’t that simple. Both sides have meaningful successes and meaningful failures, both sides have good ideas and bad ideas, both sides have honorable people and scumbags. it must be exhausting to feel the need to deny every single event that happens to make one side look bad.

In any event, if you could tell us who said that oil prices have never been this high, that would be appreciated.


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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

PLEASE tell me who said those prices have never happened before? Please?

i’m not sure if you’ve ever worked in the private sector, but surging costs aren’t a good thing. in public labor unions, you can just confiscate everything you need from your neighbors with force of law, so you don’t care. In the real world, surging costs make it harder to do business. So yes, there can be a reason to be concerned when oil prices spike.

just because it’s not a winning political issue for you, doesn’t mean it’s not legitimate.

Wayne is there anything that paints liberalism in a negative light, which is true? or is everything that helps conservatives, necessarily a manufactured lie?

When you have to resort to blatant lies, that means you can’t respond to the truth. also means you’re not a serious person.

Have you ever once said “the democrats blew that, that’s going to hurt them”? Have you ever said that, on a single issue? Ever?

We all understand it would make your life easier if every single thing that happened, painted democrats in a favorable light and republicans in an evil light. But real life isn’t that simple. Both sides have meaningful successes and meaningful failures, both sides have good ideas and bad ideas, both sides have honorable people and scumbags. it must be exhausting to feel the need to deny every single event that happens to make one side look bad.

In any event, if you could tell us who said that oil prices have never been this high, that would be appreciated.


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Jim liberals or liberalism has nothing to do with current gas prices



I am sorry you can’t accept that..

So now you want socialism government control of of gas prices

Because your the only one making this a political issue .. when it’s basic economics
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim liberals or liberalism has nothing to do with current gas prices



I am sorry you can’t accept that..

So now you want socialism government control of of gas prices

Because your the only one making this a political issue .. when it’s basic economics
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(1) you claimed that republicans said oil prices have never been this high. Please tell us who is saying that? Or did you make it up.

(2) the president of the US can have an impact on oil prices, and this one has. He's obviously anti fracking and not a fan of domestic production, which decreases the supply. Do you know what happens to something, when the supply decreases? It goes up. Additionally, perceived stability in the middle east impacts oil prices, and nobody thinks that the prospects of Middle East peace improved when Biden took his hand off the bible.

I can accept everything, because unlike you, I'm not a slave to what I believe. I can go wherever the truth takes me. It's you who has to invent things to protect your ideology, things like saying republicans are claiming oil is at an all time high. Nobody said that. But you lied and claimed they did, because it helps your side. And that's all that matters to you.

Oil had nowhere to go but up when Biden took office, mostly because covid crushed worldwide demand. No matter who became president in 2020, oil prices would have gone up. But it's logical to assume that Bidens agenda pushed prices higher than they'd have gone under a president who was an aggressive pro-production potus. If you ever read chapter 1 of any economics text, you'd understand the impact of supply on price.

You keep telling yourself that Bidens poling is nothing to worry about. And keep telling yourself that America will embrace Harris if she has to run in 2024 which is likely. When you nominate a president with dementia, and a VP who is amazingly un-impressive and un-likeable except for her skin color and gender, well, maybe that's short-sighted and stupid like it was when the GOP nominated Trump. Maybe, maybe not. What we know for sure, is the only president with polling lower at this point, got absolutely creamed at re-election. Creamed. So a rational person would say he's really struggling. Not one of you can concede that, all is swell according to you. Spence says he's doing fine. He has the entire media except one TV station doing commercials for him all day long, and STILL he's below 40%. Imagine if the press was actually fair.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

(2) the president of the US can have an impact on oil prices, and this one has.

Biden is set to approve more new oil and gas drilling permits this year than any under Trump or Obama. We have a production setback from multiple hurricanes that has nothing to do with policy. The real shortage is globally which is likely going to drive prices higher but I'm not sure what Biden or anyone can do about it unless OPEC increases production.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

(1)
(2) the president of the US can have an impact on oil prices, and this one has. He's obviously anti fracking and not a fan of domestic production, which decreases the supply. Do you know what happens to something, when the supply decreases? It goes up. Additionally, perceived stability in the middle east impacts oil prices, and nobody thinks that the prospects of Middle East peace improved when Biden took his hand off the bible.




. Imagine if the press was actually fair.

Thanks Jim you did just what I said you would



But they will try blaming it on canceling keystone pipeline that hadn't been built or say something about oil leases even when have of the current leases are not being used

And they we all ignore with increased demand comes increase in prices

and of course attack the press a staple for conservatives

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Thanks Jim you did just what I said you would



But they will try blaming it on canceling keystone pipeline that hadn't been built or say something about oil leases even when have of the current leases are not being used

And they we all ignore with increased demand comes increase in prices

and of course attack the press a staple for conservatives

did i say anything about keystone?

have you seen the approval ratings of the press?? you deny the press is overwhelmingly liberal?

trying to have a serious conversation with you . it’s not easy.

anyway, biden helped oil go higher as i bet that he would and knew he would.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

did i say anything about keystone?


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he does this a lot...it's like he's got all these talking points he's trying to fit in somewhere

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

did i say anything about keystone? obviously anti fracking and not a fan of domestic production JIM keystone fall under that statement just saying
have you seen the approval ratings of the press?? you deny the press is overwhelmingly liberal? I am not moved by his poll numbers could care less

trying to have a serious conversation with you . it’s not easy.

anyway, biden helped oil go higher as i bet that he would and knew he would. you still cant explain how he did that shocking
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I love this one Jim

If Biden is as pro-oil as trump .. so in your imagination if Trump was re elected the price of oil and gas would have stayed low Because of Trump? Spoke like a tru trump cult member

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

trying to have a serious conversation with you . it’s not easy.

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