Herd immunity is not a strategy, it is a biological fact

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Is the school records a big deal? Because it sure didn't matter in 2008 and 2012 when we had a guy who refused to share his school records.

But you always wanted to see Obama's even though Obama never bragged about them and claimed he was #1 in his class.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

But you always wanted to see Obama's even though Obama never bragged about them and claimed he was #1 in his class.

I didn't want to see Obama's, I just liked poinitng out the hypocrisy of liberals who made fun of Bush's transcripts and McCain's transcripts, but have nothing to say about Obama. And you all told me that it was no big deal that Obama didn't release his.

Again, how about one set of rules/standards, and we apply them equally to all presidents, regardless of party. Crazy, I know.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I didn't want to see Obama's, I just liked poinitng out the hypocrisy of liberals who made fun of Bush's transcripts and McCain's transcripts, but have nothing to say about Obama. And you all told me that it was no big deal that Obama didn't release his.

Again, how about one set of rules/standards, and we apply them equally to all presidents, regardless of party. Crazy, I know.

You mean like the hypocrisy of the GOP stopping a Supreme Court appointment saying that close to the election it just shouldn’t be done but it’s ok for them now. Listen to the Republicans running in 2016, they knew who Trump was and all those same hypocrites now kiss his authoritarian arse. Just afraid of loosing the power, loosing your moral standard, the rule of law or plain common decency is ok. People in class houses shouldn’t be throwing stones.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

You mean like the hypocrisy of the GOP stopping a Supreme Court appointment saying that close to the election it just shouldn’t be done but it’s ok for them now. Listen to the Republicans running in 2016, they knew who Trump was and all those same hypocrites now kiss his authoritarian arse. Just afraid of loosing the power, loosing your moral standard, the rule of law or plain common decency is ok. People in class houses shouldn’t be throwing stones.

The rule of constitutional law for appointing SCOTUS Justices is being followed. The political "moral standard," self-serving and bordering on depravity as it pretty much has always been, seems to be intact.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

You mean like the hypocrisy of the GOP stopping a Supreme Court appointment saying that close to the election it just shouldn’t be done but it’s ok for them now. Listen to the Republicans running in 2016, they knew who Trump was and all those same hypocrites now kiss his authoritarian arse. Just afraid of loosing the power, loosing your moral standard, the rule of law or plain common decency is ok. People in class houses shouldn’t be throwing stones.

I said 100 times, that because of the wording the GOP used with Garland, that makes them hypoicrites.

Now, can you admit that Biden is also a hypocrite on the issue? Biden came up with the 'Biden rule' where he said that Supreme Court nominations should not be made in an election year, and if a president made a nomination, the senate should block that nomination. That's exactly, precisely what the Senate Republicans did with Garland, they abided by the Biden rule.

Then in 2016, Biden flip flopped, saying an election year nomination was OK. Now hes saying its not OK. So you please tell me GS, what is Bidens position on this issue?

Answer - his position is the same as the Republican position, they will say whatever helps them in that moment. No principles.

I admitted the Senate Republicans were hypocrites. Please explain to all of us, how Biden isn't just as big a hypocrite.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Listen to the Republicans running in 2016, they knew who Trump was and all those same hypocrites now kiss his authoritarian arse. .

Most people didn't want Trump to be the nominee, which is why he didn't get anywhere near 50% of the votes in the primaries. Problem is, there were 100 people running who weren't Trump.

Now? No one had any idea he'd be this effective. Heck he didn't even campaign on progress in the middle east, and he's done more in a term than Biden has done in 47 years.

Tax cuts, insanely low unemployment, brought ISIS to their knees, stock market records, no questionable wars, raises for vets and improvements to their benefits, school choice, criminal justice reform, lowest minority unemployment ever, improved funding for black colleges, economic opportunity zones, and we became energy independent. And agree with him or not, he's the most pro-life president by far, of my lifetime.

Yeah, why would any Republican get behind a guy who did that in one term? What a do-nothing slacker! You sure showed me with that post, GS.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Most people didn't want Trump to be the nominee, which is why he didn't get anywhere near 50% of the votes in the primaries. Problem is, there were 100 people running who weren't Trump.

Now? No one had any idea he'd be this effective. Heck he didn't even campaign on progress in the middle east, and he's done more in a term than Biden has done in 47 years.

Tax cuts, insanely low unemployment, brought ISIS to their knees, stock market records, no questionable wars, raises for vets and improvements to their benefits, school choice, criminal justice reform, lowest minority unemployment ever, improved funding for black colleges, economic opportunity zones, and we became energy independent. And agree with him or not, he's the most pro-life president by far, of my lifetime.

Yeah, why would any Republican get behind a guy who did that in one term? What a do-nothing slacker! You sure showed me with that post, GS.

Your Trump successes are from a certain point of view, If he is so good, so successful at positive changes (I’m not in agreement on much), your guy should be winning this election by huge margins. Oh wait he was such a failure at handling this pandemic and continues the irresponsible messaging responsible for putting more Americans at risk, I guess it would seem the American voting public might not see this administration as a success. The irony is that if he wasn’t so fu*cking stupid at handling this pandemic he might have actually easily won a second term. Please don’t fall back on your staple travel ban argument, it just makes you look stupid and desperate.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Your Trump successes are from a certain point of view, If he is so good, so successful at positive changes (I’m not in agreement on much), your guy should be winning this election by huge margins. Oh wait he was such a failure at handling this pandemic and continues the irresponsible messaging responsible for putting more Americans at risk, I guess it would seem the American voting public might not see this administration as a success. The irony is that if he wasn’t so fu*cking stupid at handling this pandemic he might have actually easily won a second term. Please don’t fall back on your staple travel ban argument, it just makes you look stupid and desperate.

"Your Trump successes are from a certain point of view"

That's how it usually works, yes. But since a record 56% of pople say they are better off now than 4 years ago (that's a record who said yes to that), it seems that I'm not exactly the only one who feels that way. We can evaluate him as we see fit and vote accordingly, as it should be. I was responding to your inane comment that Republicans shouldn't be supporting him because of his manners. If you agree with the republican platform, you have to give the guy at least a B+. Adding to the debt is a big, big negative.

Is it only a certain point of view that would say he routed ISIS?

"your guy should be winning this election by huge margins. "

If the election was a year ago, he probably would have.

"he was such a failure at handling this pandemic"

That's the non-stop spin. I don't happen to buy into it being all his fault, but I'm guessing a lot of people believe it is his fault, and he gets creamed as a result. That's my guess.

"The irony is that if he wasn’t so fu*cking stupid at handling this pandemic he might have actually easily won a second term. Please don’t fall back on your staple travel ban argument, it just makes you look stupid and desperate"

I'm not stupid or desperate. I'm smart and more than prepared for him to lose big. You guys are the ones that can't concede ANYTHING that goes against your agenda, which obviously makes you the desperate ones.

What should he have done, back in December, based on what we knew then. What were the democrats calling for?

You're misrepresenting my stance on the travel ban. I'm not saying it helped or it didn't. WHat I'm saying, because its tue, is that when he implemented the ban, prominent democrats said it was an overreaction. Biden called it "hysterical" and "xenophobic". This means that Biden would have done LESS, not more.

Since that's obviously true (Biden would have done less), how would anyone conclude the death toll would be lower if Biden was POTUS? I'm asking a sincere question. Will you answer it as I asked it?

Also, if he could tone down the tweets and baby rhetoric, he'd also be looking at a likely second term. But he can't, he just can't refrain from being such a jerk.

But his results, from a republican view, were really good.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Your Trump successes are from a certain point of view"

That's how it usually works, yes. But since a record 56% of pople say they are better off now than 4 years ago (that's a record who said yes to that), it seems that I'm not exactly the only one who feels that way. We can evaluate him as we see fit and vote accordingly, as it should be. I was responding to your inane comment that Republicans shouldn't be supporting him because of his manners. If you agree with the republican platform, you have to give the guy at least a B+. Adding to the debt is a big, big negative.

Is it only a certain point of view that would say he routed ISIS?

"your guy should be winning this election by huge margins. "

If the election was a year ago, he probably would have.

"he was such a failure at handling this pandemic"

That's the non-stop spin. I don't happen to buy into it being all his fault, but I'm guessing a lot of people believe it is his fault, and he gets creamed as a result. That's my guess.

"The irony is that if he wasn’t so fu*cking stupid at handling this pandemic he might have actually easily won a second term. Please don’t fall back on your staple travel ban argument, it just makes you look stupid and desperate"

I'm not stupid or desperate. I'm smart and more than prepared for him to lose big. You guys are the ones that can't concede ANYTHING that goes against your agenda, which obviously makes you the desperate ones.

What should he have done, back in December, based on what we knew then. What were the democrats calling for?

You're misrepresenting my stance on the travel ban. I'm not saying it helped or it didn't. WHat I'm saying, because its tue, is that when he implemented the ban, prominent democrats said it was an overreaction. Biden called it "hysterical" and "xenophobic". This means that Biden would have done LESS, not more.

Since that's obviously true (Biden would have done less), how would anyone conclude the death toll would be lower if Biden was POTUS? I'm asking a sincere question. Will you answer it as I asked it?

Also, if he could tone down the tweets and baby rhetoric, he'd also be looking at a likely second term. But he can't, he just can't refrain from being such a jerk.

But his results, from a republican view, were really good.

I knew you couldn’t resist going back to the travel ban, so predictable it’s just to fun to wind you up. Hey go poll those same people today and all the small business owners who have closed their doors, I know they won’t feel they are now better off.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Most people didn't want Trump to be the nominee, which is why he didn't get anywhere near 50% of the votes in the primaries. Problem is, there were 100 people running who weren't Trump.

Now? No one had any idea he'd be this effective. Heck he didn't even campaign on progress in the middle east, and he's done more in a term than Biden has done in 47 years.

Tax cuts, insanely low unemployment, brought ISIS to their knees, stock market records, no questionable wars, raises for vets and improvements to their benefits, school choice, criminal justice reform, lowest minority unemployment ever, improved funding for black colleges, economic opportunity zones, and we became energy independent. And agree with him or not, he's the most pro-life president by far, of my lifetime.

Yeah, why would any Republican get behind a guy who did that in one term? What a do-nothing slacker! You sure showed me with that post, GS.

To follow up on this three year view you seem to have, you can’t judge an administration on one, two or three years; it’s a four year term remember. So tax cuts that may have helped some have been spent to survive. We now have the highest unemployment and worse economy since the Great Depression. Vets expressing their disgust of numerous comments by Trump not sure he is viewed as positively by veterans as you think. Schools for the most part are closed and many if opened are closing again due to covid outbreaks. Report cards are for the entire term Jim, so grades aren’t passing, in fact they are failing grades but keep waving your Trump 2020 flag.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

To follow up on this three year view you seem to have, you can’t judge an administration on one, two or three years; it’s a four year term remember.

which is why the ACB nomination and confirmation was completely appropriate

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

To follow up on this three year view you seem to have, you can’t judge an administration on one, two or three years; it’s a four year term remember. So tax cuts that may have helped some have been spent to survive. We now have the highest unemployment and worse economy since the Great Depression. Vets expressing their disgust of numerous comments by Trump not sure he is viewed as positively by veterans as you think. Schools for the most part are closed and many if opened are closing again due to covid outbreaks. Report cards are for the entire term Jim, so grades aren’t passing, in fact they are failing grades but keep waving your Trump 2020 flag.

we “now” have the highest unemployment since the great depression? now? wtf are you talking about?

unemployment was in the mid teens when states chose to shut down. are you saying trump should have somehow forced all businesses to stay open?

you’re alllll over the place. but rest assured, that as of right now, unemployment is nowhere near what it was during the depression, and trending better for now.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

unemployment was in the mid teens when states chose to shut down.

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and "experts" projected it would be in the twenties

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

we “now” have the highest unemployment since the great depression? now? wtf are you talking about?


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I think he meant "since the dark ages"

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

We now have the highest unemployment and worse economy since the Great Depression.

.

huh???

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Vets expressing their disgust of numerous comments by Trump not sure he is viewed as positively by veterans as you think.

Well, I work on a Navy base and I work with a bunch of veterans, as well as keep in touch with a bunch of my old shipmates.

From what I’m seeing, he isn’t as despised as much by veterans as you think.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Well, I work on a Navy base and I work with a bunch of veterans, as well as keep in touch with a bunch of my old shipmates.

From what I’m seeing, he isn’t as despised as much by veterans as you think.
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I'll be very curious to se how he actually does with the military. He has been a very loyal supporter of the military - multiple raises, improvements at the VA, and no questionable wars.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

You mean like the hypocrisy of the GOP stopping a Supreme Court appointment saying that close to the election it just shouldn’t be done but it’s ok for them now. Listen to the Republicans running in 2016, they knew who Trump was and all those same hypocrites now kiss his authoritarian arse. Just afraid of loosing the power, loosing your moral standard, the rule of law or plain common decency is ok. People in class houses shouldn’t be throwing stones.

epic whining...

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

You mean like the hypocrisy of the GOP stopping a Supreme Court appointment saying that close to the election it just shouldn’t be done but it’s ok for them now. People in class houses shouldn’t be throwing stones.

I'm sure Schumer and the democrats would have done it differently

she will be a fabulous Supreme Court Justice

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I didn't want to see Obama's, I just liked poinitng out the hypocrisy of liberals who made fun of Bush's transcripts and McCain's transcripts, but have nothing to say about Obama. And you all told me that it was no big deal that Obama didn't release his.

Again, how about one set of rules/standards, and we apply them equally to all presidents, regardless of party. Crazy, I know.

So you didn't want to see Obama's but constantly would ask to see it anyways

Ok, I get it.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So you didn't want to see Obama's but constantly would ask to see it anyways

Ok, I get it.

I didn't want to see it. I wanted to know why liberal hypocrites who made fun of Bush and McCain for their transcripts, didn't care that Obama refused to share his.

Going too fast for you?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I didn't want to see it. I wanted to know why liberal hypocrites who made fun of Bush and McCain for their transcripts, didn't care that Obama refused to share his.

Going too fast for you?

No I understand perfectly. You didn't want to see it but asked for anyways bc it showed the Dems were hypocrites for asking for Bush's.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

asking for Bush's.

biden thinks he's running against bush

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

biden thinks he's running against bush

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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

No I understand perfectly. You didn't want to see it but asked for anyways bc it showed the Dems were hypocrites for asking for Bush's.

Asking for it, and asking why you didn't want to see it, aren't the same thing.

Again, sorry if that's going too fast for you.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Asking for it, and asking why you didn't want to see it, aren't the same thing.

Again, sorry if that's going too fast for you.

yes, I guess you are going to fast for me when I question why you constantly would ask why Obama didn't produce his transcripts but did it to show the Dems. are hypocrites for asking for McCain's transcripts. The Dems where hypocrites but somehow you are not.

What does Trump have to hide? He said he was #1 in his class at Wharton.