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		 Just wait for Trump's new Healthcare Plan, "You're on your own." 
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				Tonight Tweety claimed a Covid-19 vaccine could be ready for distribution as early as mid-October — hours after the head of the CDC testified it likely wouldn't be ready until the end of the year. 
Somebody’s full of false hope and unknowing optimism. 
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 It’s just more of the same Trump’s version of reality ALWAYS is for personal or political gain, I doubt anyone with a brain can’t see why he contradicts all the medical experts since day one and NO it’s not to calm Americans.  
		
		
		
		
		
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		 There is only bluster and BS 
There is no healthcare plan. There is no infrastructure plan. There is no plan to deal with the pandemic. There is no plan to deal with the climate crisis. There is no plan to deal with structural racism. There is no plan to deal with economic injustice. There is only an idiot who thinks he’s the “Chosen One”, claiming it will all get better and he alone can fix it. 
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				There is only bluster and BS 
There is no healthcare plan. There is no infrastructure plan. There is no plan to deal with the pandemic. There is no plan to deal with the climate crisis. There is no plan to deal with structural racism. There is no plan to deal with economic injustice. There is only an idiot who thinks he’s the “Chosen One”, claiming it will all get better and he alone can fix it. 
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 It's far worse than that, for the most part he denies any of these are really even serious issues.  
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Didn’t want to panic anyone  
 
The USPS had a plan to send 5 reusable facemarks to every household in early April. Even had a press release ready. 
 
The White House blocked the plan. 
 
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				There is only bluster and BS 
There is no healthcare plan. There is no infrastructure plan. There is no plan to deal with the pandemic. There is no plan to deal with the climate crisis. There is no plan to deal with structural racism. There is no plan to deal with economic injustice. There is only an idiot who thinks he’s the “Chosen One”, claiming it will all get better and he alone can fix it. 
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 Plan, plan, everywhere a plan 
Blocking out my freedom, breaking my mind.
 
So I got me a pen and a paper and I made up my own little plan 
I said, "Thank you, Lord, for thinkin' 'bout me. I'm alive and doin' fine."  
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-17-2020, 06:18 PM
			
			
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		 During a worldwide health pandemic does it not bother you Trump supporters he is bypassing the CDC to control a politically driven narrative?  It’s bad enough he has been lying from the start when he knew how severe this was likely to be and now he is preventing the CDC from reviewing their own press releases.  It is so irresponsible and frankly dangerous to erode any trust in any future vaccine, to contradict ALL the medical experts on the timeline for a safe rollout of the vaccine to the general public.  Gee wiz what is the word I’m looking for where a leader on this globe controls the state news the citizens can see, the only difference is Trump hasn’t quite got control of the free news outlets but given time he will try. 
		
		
		
		
		
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		The stories that are starting to emerge about how the pandemic was handled at the White House will make almost every American cringe 
“Kushner, seated at the head of the conference table, in a chair taller than all the others, was quick to strike a confrontational tone. “The federal government is not going to lead this response,” he announced. “It’s up to the states to figure out what they want to do.”
 
One attendee explained to Kushner that due to the finite supply of PPE, Americans were bidding against each other and driving prices up. To solve that, businesses eager to help were looking to the federal government for leadership and direction.
 
“Free markets will solve this,” Kushner said dismissively. “That is not the role of government.”
 
The same attendee explained that although he believed in open markets, he feared that the system was breaking. As evidence, he pointed to a CNN report about New York governor Andrew Cuomo and his desperate call for supplies.
 
“That’s the CNN bull#^&#^&#^&#^&,” Kushner snapped. “They lie.””
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				During a worldwide health pandemic does it not bother you Trump supporters he is bypassing the CDC to control a politically driven narrative?  It’s bad enough he has been lying from the start when he knew how severe this was likely to be and now he is preventing the CDC from reviewing their own press releases.  It is so irresponsible and frankly dangerous to erode any trust in any future vaccine, to contradict ALL the medical experts on the timeline for a safe rollout of the vaccine to the general public.  Gee wiz what is the word I’m looking for where a leader on this globe controls the state news the citizens can see, the only difference is Trump hasn’t quite got control of the free news outlets but given time he will try. 
			
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				Don’t like the red cool aid like you, clouds your mind, numbs your thinking and blinds you to what’s happening 
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		 Oh, by the way 
We’re now at 200K dead 
And what’s the headline  
 
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		 just for the record...the republican run state of California continues to lead the league in new cases and total cases...they must not be wearing masks there 
		
		
		
		
		
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		 Trump: "We’re doing better than Europe." 
 
Average deaths per day over the last week:  
 
Spain: 107 
France: 53 
Italy: 14 
 
US: 799 
 
And in case you didn’t understand, the President is the leader of the governing organization of all 50 states, responsible to the Constitution, not himself first and his party second. 
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				The Constitution doesn't make the President the "leader" of the federal government.  It makes him the head ("leader") of the Executive Branch of the government.  The President doesn't constitutionally "lead" Congress.  The President implements and enforces the laws passed by Congress.  The President doesn't make laws.  Nor does the President "lead" the Supreme Court in its decisions. 
 
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 You better tell Tweety, his speech and actions don’t match your claims
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		 There have been great examples of Presidential leadership in history, 200K+ dead will be Tweety’s legacy. 
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		Glad to hear you're excited about the SC. 
Meanwhile in the world that most Americans live in............
 
The University of Washington coronavirus model cited by the White House on June 16th revised its estimate to 200,000 coronavirus deaths by October 1 in the United States.
 
This projection from mid-June was accurate nearly within a week.
 
The same model now projects 378,000 coronavirus deaths by January 1st.
 
A recent study from the University of Frankford in Germany showed abnormal heart findings in more than 75% of people studied who had recently recovered from COVID-19. A considerable majority of patients in the study were found to have had inflammation in the heart and muscle lining.
 
This can be troubling as inflammation in the heart can lead to long-lasting cardiac disease and failure.
 
“There’s a lot more that needs to be studied, but it’s important to know that there’s the possibility out there that a coronavirus infection could mean development of a serious heart condition,” says Dr. Jacobs.
 
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				Glad to hear you're excited about the SC. 
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The University of Washington coronavirus model cited by the White House on June 16th revised its estimate to 200,000 coronavirus deaths by October 1 in the United States. 
 
This projection from mid-June was accurate nearly within a week. 
 
The same model now projects 378,000 coronavirus deaths by January 1st. 
 
A recent study from the University of Frankford in Germany showed abnormal heart findings in more than 75% of people studied who had recently recovered from COVID-19. A considerable majority of patients in the study were found to have had inflammation in the heart and muscle lining. 
 
This can be troubling as inflammation in the heart can lead to long-lasting cardiac disease and failure. 
 
“There’s a lot more that needs to be studied, but it’s important to know that there’s the possibility out there that a coronavirus infection could mean development of a serious heart condition,” says Dr. Jacobs. 
 
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 I don't think Biden can change any of that.  Nor do I think, no matter how hard you try to convince us, that Trump is responsible for all of that.  I think that since the Russia hoax, and phony impeachment, and tax recoreds, and sexual accusations, and racism, xenophobia, sexist, homophobe, NAZI, schticks didn't work, blaming Trump for covid deaths is the last desperate attempt to get him before the election.
 
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		 Ahh, the poor victim 
Let’s see his taxes that have been being audited for how many years  
Let’s see the unredacted Mueller report  
An impeachment with evidence presented  
The DNA that his rape accuser almost subpoenaed till Barr claimed libel is a presidential duty 
Yea, he owns a lot of responsibility for COVID-19 deaths, but he and you are willing to blame anyone while taking no responsibility at all. 
He’s the same barking carnival clown he’s always been. 
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				Ahh, the poor victim 
Let’s see his taxes that have been being audited for how many years  
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The DNA that his rape accuser almost subpoenaed till Barr claimed libel is a presidential duty 
Yea, he owns a lot of responsibility for COVID-19 deaths, but he and you are willing to blame anyone while taking no responsibility at all. 
He’s the same barking carnival clown he’s always been. 
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!  
 
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you? 
  
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			09-22-2020, 08:13 PM
			
			
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				Most mobbed up guys aren’t 
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 Neither are Presidents and highly successful business men.  
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-22-2020, 10:57 PM
			
			
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		 Not racist at all either 
President Trump: "How about Omar of Minnesota? We're going to win the state Minnesota because of her, they say. She's telling us how to run our country. How did you do where you came from?" 
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			09-23-2020, 08:54 AM
			
			
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				Not racist at all either 
President Trump: "How about Omar of Minnesota? We're going to win the state Minnesota because of her, they say. She's telling us how to run our country. How did you do where you came from?" 
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 If a woman moved from the U.S. to Germany, and Merkel asked her how she did where she came from, would that be racism?  
		
		
		
		
		
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