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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

The kid... the seventeen year old kid should have been at home, not out openly carrying an AR-15. He wasn't necessarily a better shot, he was definitely better armed... Furthermore, he tripped and fell. He was not beaten before he fired. And what was he thinking? Clearly he was not acting as a member of an organized militia. He was out for adventure, IMO. (NOT mind reading here, Jim.) Hell, if I was out there, (big if, mind you) and I see a young gunman running down the street, not wearing a uniform that I know, hell yeah, I am more than likely ready to train my weapon on him as the immediate risk. As I said, he was lucky it was just fools out in the streets that night.

What has his age got to do with it? What were all those other people older than him there for? Did their age somehow give them more intellegence, qualification, or reason to be there?

He was being chased by several men. When he fell, they started to swarm on him, one appeared ready to stomp on him, then he opened fire. At that point, it looked like self defense to me. But, maybe the trial will bring out whatever the truth is, or bring out whatever the truth is supposed to be according to those who will make the final judgment.

As far as his age goes in determining whether he is a misguided fool or a supposed hero, we still have Greta Thunberg, same age, out there stumping for climate control. She is celebrated, honored, glorified, especially because of her age--almost an insult to all the adults who sit quietly at home and say nothing.

I guess it depends on which "side" your on if it's OK, or even really good, for a 17 year old to jump into the fray.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by detbuch

What has his age got to do with it? What were all those other people older than him there for? Did their age somehow give them more intellegence, qualification, or reason to be there?

He was being chased by several men. When he fell, they started to swarm on him, one appeared ready to stomp on him, then he opened fire. At that point, it looked like self defense to me. But, maybe the trial will bring out whatever the truth is, or bring out whatever the truth is supposed to be according to those who will make the final judgment.

As far as his age goes in determining whether he is a misguided fool or a supposed hero, we still have Greta Thunberg, same age, out there stumping for climate control. She is celebrated, honored, glorified, especially because of her age--almost an insult to all the adults who sit quietly at home and say nothing.

I guess it depends on which "side" your on if it's OK, or even really good, for a 17 year old to jump into the fray.

I missed the part where Greta shot people.... Maybe it was on the sailboat and word never got around....

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I missed the part where Greta shot people.... Maybe it was on the sailboat and word never got around....

I responded to age being an issue. And nobody chased Greta with intent to seriously harm or kill her. I'm just guessing. Don't know for sure. But if several men did chase her down because of what she said, and she had a gun, I'm guessing you'd be OK with her shooting them.

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by detbuch

What has his age got to do with it? What were all those other UNARMED people older than him there for? Did their age somehow give them more intellegence, qualification, or reason to be there WITHOUT THE NEED TO BRANDISH AN AR-15?

Look, I am not agreeing or siding with protestors here. But I will try to make an unbiased decision about right vs wrong when it comes to the use of firearms and deadly force. This isn't political. Every damn thing seems to be tied to pro Trump or anti Trump. This is not an all or none world...

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by nightfighter

Look, I am not agreeing or siding with protestors here. But I will try to make an unbiased decision about right vs wrong when it comes to the use of firearms and deadly force. This isn't political. Every damn thing seems to be tied to pro Trump or anti Trump. This is not an all or none world...

First, it's not true that all those older "protesters" were unarmed, as you edited my post to say, one of them chasing him had a pistol and another during the chase fired a shot in the air.

I agree that everything seems to be tied to pro Trump or anti Trump. Except I don't think that it is merely "seems." It is intentional. Making it about Trump is the way to hide real issues and intents.

Just for the sake of argument, take Trump out of the equation and every thing else remains the same. Analyzing it that way might clarify what is actually happening.