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08-14-2020, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
You ‘can't grasp what is meant by your "to lead the administration of the USA".’ because you, like Tweety, have no idea what real leaders do.
I do have an idea. And Biden is not a real leader. He is a tool and a sycophant of his party. Unlike "Tweety," he has made a fortune off of the power he has accrued by that servile relationship. I have no illusion about Biden knowing who I am or caring about it. He's in it for him not me. And his ticket is not some innate power to lead, but his willingness to follow the party line, regardless of how it may change, he will flow with it no matter which direction it takes. If it wants a green new deal, he'll pump that. If it wants to grab your guns, he'll promote that. He will not somehow "lead" us into some great new revival of constitutional government. He will slavishly follow the Progressive transformation away from that.
A Crisis makes or breaks a Presidency, look at Roosevelt with a Depression, drought and WW2 or Bush with 9/11 and Obama with H1N1 and a severe recession.
All stepped up to the plate, delivered the message that got Americans to join together in pursuit of a goal.
Roosevelt prolonged the depression rather than leading us out of it. He was dragged into WW2 and he turned that event into the massive expansion of Soviet power which helped to divide the world not unite it. He greatly advanced the administrative state that you unwittingly admire, but which destroys separation of powers and the basis of the Constitution.
Bush has been excoriated for his response to 9/11 and just about everything else he did by the very folks you want to put in power. He was also called a dummy by those folks.
H1N1 was not a pandemic nor difficult to contain since it requires transmission of body fluids from person to person. Nor did he have a mainstream press that tried daily to denigrate him and get him removed. And he certainly didn't have a worldwide pandemic to cause a shut down of the economy which would have devastated it rather than slowly revive it.
Tweety’s divisiveness and attempts to hide the problem have led the USA to the worst response to the pandemic in the developed world.
All Presidents have critics, inside and outside the administration. Presidents deal with it, it comes with the job and they once elected become the President for all Americans. Not this bird, from his dark inaugural speech to his saying out loud that Governors need to praise him to get aid, he has clearly divided Americans.
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This divisiveness meme is more a result of the opposition party and media constantly painting him as some horror that needs to be removed. You're an example of that. You keep saying that he said things that he didn't. Even after you've been factually corrected, that doesn't stop you. You keep repeating the big lie so that it will become the "truth."
Our normal political division has been exacerbated by one of the greatest political onslaughts against a President in US history. It has intentionally divided us while implanting the notion that Trump is who has divided us.
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08-14-2020, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
This divisiveness meme is more a result of the opposition party and media constantly painting him as some horror that needs to be removed. You're an example of that. You keep saying that he said things that he didn't. Even after you've been factually corrected, that doesn't stop you. You keep repeating the big lie so that it will become the "truth."
So Tweety's failures are the responsibility of (1) the biased “fake news” media, (2) over-the-top liberals, (3) hypocrites on the left, (4) anyone else victimizing Mr. Trump or his supporters.
Tweety is the master of the big lie, yesterday he started anew with his timeworn racist birther conspiracy theory, that he heard and doesn't know but willingly repeats.
On H1N1 you are wrong, the pandemic H1N1 virus is spread from person to person, similar to seasonal influenza viruses and Covid-19. It is transmitted as easily as the normal seasonal flu and can be passed to other people by exposure to infected droplets expelled by coughing or sneezing that can be inhaled, or that can contaminate hands or surfaces.
Our normal political division has been exacerbated by one of the greatest political onslaughts against a President in US history. It has intentionally divided us while implanting the notion that Trump is who has divided us.
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Sure, the lifelong victim in the White House claims to have it worse than any previous President, even Lincoln. It doesn't fly.
So let’s get this straight:
WSJ headline: As Kamala Harris Joins Biden Ticket, Wall Street Sighs in Relief
Politico Headline: Left wing rankled by choice of Harris for VP
In These Times Headline: Now Comes the Difficult Work of Pushing the Biden-Harris Ticket Left
Wall Street is happy with Kamala Harris and thinks she’ll be good for business.
Left-wing activists are freaked out by her and think that Biden picking Harris signals that the progressives are losing.
The left-wing media straight up says, Hey Biden-Harris isn’t on our side, we have to drag them to the left somehow.
And Tweety’s plan, that you are pushing, is to claim that Kamala Harris is a commie radical who represents an existential threat to the American order?
That just isn’t going to fly, Democrats have the far left under control, while Republicans are being controlled by the far right.
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08-14-2020, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
That just isn’t going to fly, Democrats have the far left under control, while Republicans are being controlled by the far right.
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I wouldn't say Repubs are controlled by the far right, they are largely controlled by Trump who uses the far right as a wedge.
Many have woken from the black sleep of Kali Ma, but many remain in a trance.
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08-14-2020, 12:00 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by spence
I wouldn't say Repubs are controlled by the far right, they are largely controlled by Trump who uses the far right as a wedge.
Many have woken from the black sleep of Kali Ma, but many remain in a trance.
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Love Indian Jones movies, but that wasn’t his best, but I like the comparison fits perfect.
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