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08-09-2020, 09:41 PM
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You believe in Trump and Trumpism. We believe in decency, democracy, the rule of law, national unity, competence, science, medicine, expert advice, vital American institutions and the Constitution. Oh and you believe in Ghislane Maxwell. Forgot.
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08-09-2020, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
You believe in Trump and Trumpism. We believe in decency, democracy, the rule of law, national unity, competence, science, medicine, expert advice, vital American institutions and the Constitution. Oh and you believe in Ghislane Maxwell. Forgot.
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You believe in bull$hit.
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08-10-2020, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
You believe in bull$hit.
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Only plan that’s always on Trump’s mind is ‘how can I get mine?’
There’s no healthcare plan.
There’s no economic recovery plan.
There’s no nat’l pandemic mitigation plan.
There’s no safe back to school plan.
There’s no nat’l security plan.
There’s no racial injustice plan.
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08-10-2020, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Only plan that’s always on Trump’s mind is ‘how can I get mine?’
There’s no healthcare plan.
There’s no economic recovery plan.
There’s no nat’l pandemic mitigation plan.
There’s no safe back to school plan.
There’s no nat’l security plan.
There’s no racial injustice plan.
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As I said, you believe in bull$hit. If you believe in the Constitution, as you say you do, then you don't believe in the Constitution as written, but in the fictitious one that Progressives claim has evolved through some miraculous living and breathing. Of course, that kind of evolution is nonsense. This fictitious Constitution evolved through Progressive manipulation, not by some time driven life force.
Your desire for these listed national plans is evidence that you want the all-powerful Progressive central government that the Constitution is supposed to protect us against.
Do you believe states are necessary? Would you consider it better if they were relegated merely to being geographically described areas rather than sovereign states with their own constitutions.
Whether you describe your personal political principles as Progressive or not, you constantly express your political desires the way a Progressive would. And if you are a Progressive, you believe in the Constitution as Ruth Bader Ginsburg does. She has said that she would not recommend it as a governing principle for any country looking to create a blue print for national governance. She has said that she would prefer more recent ones with lengthy more detailed positive things government must do.
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08-10-2020, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
As I said, you believe in bull$hit. If you believe in the Constitution, as you say you do, then you don't believe in the Constitution as written, but in the fictitious one that Progressives claim has evolved through some miraculous living and breathing. Of course, that kind of evolution is nonsense. This fictitious Constitution evolved through Progressive manipulation, not by some time driven life force.
Your desire for these listed national plans is evidence that you want the all-powerful Progressive central government that the Constitution is supposed to protect us against.
Do you believe states are necessary? Would you consider it better if they were relegated merely to being geographically described areas rather than sovereign states with their own constitutions.
Whether you describe your personal political principles as Progressive or not, you constantly express your political desires the way a Progressive would. And if you are a Progressive, you believe in the Constitution as Ruth Bader Ginsburg does. She would not recommend it as a governing principle for any country looking to create a blue print for national governance. She would prefer more recent ones with lengthy more detailed positive things government must do.
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As written. Anything thing else... you dont know what your talking about... question are Trumps actions supported by your originalist view. Of as written ?
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08-10-2020, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
As written. Anything thing else... you dont know what your talking about... question are Trumps actions supported by your originalist view. Of as written ?
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I know what I am talking about. You don't know what I am talking about. We still have enough of "as written" to stop unconstitutional actions by Trump. If we get a thoroughly Progressive Supreme Court, along with its legislative and executive Progressive partners, there will be nothing left to stop "as written" unconstitutional actions.
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08-10-2020, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
I know what I am talking about. You don't know what I am talking about.
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I have no illusions who thinks their the smartest guy here .. 
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08-10-2020, 08:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
As I said, you believe in bull$hit. If you believe in the Constitution, as you say you do, then you don't believe in the Constitution as written, but in the fictitious one that Progressives claim has evolved through some miraculous living and breathing. Of course, that kind of evolution is nonsense. This fictitious Constitution evolved through Progressive manipulation, not by some time driven life force.
Your desire for these listed national plans is evidence that you want the all-powerful Progressive central government that the Constitution is supposed to protect us against.
Do you believe states are necessary? Would you consider it better if they were relegated merely to being geographically described areas rather than sovereign states with their own constitutions.
Whether you describe your personal political principles as Progressive or not, you constantly express your political desires the way a Progressive would. And if you are a Progressive, you believe in the Constitution as Ruth Bader Ginsburg does. She would not recommend it as a governing principle for any country looking to create a blue print for national governance. She would prefer more recent ones with lengthy more detailed positive things government must do.
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Forget about the legislative branch, people "want leaders who get things done," reads better in the original Italian or German or Russian. If the liberal tradition of representative government and the rule of law stands for anything, it stands against this.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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08-10-2020, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Forget about the legislative branch, people "want leaders who get things done," reads better in the original Italian or German or Russian. If the liberal tradition of representative government and the rule of law stands for anything, it stands against this.
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So you don't want leaders who get things done, but you blame Trump for not getting things done. Seems to be a contradiction there.
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08-10-2020, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
So you don't want leaders who get things done, but you blame Trump for not getting things done. Seems to be a contradiction there.
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Nearly 10,000 Americans have died in the last 9 days
Coronavirus Deaths in the U.S.
August 1, 2020: 153,314
August 10, 2020: 162,938
Tweety has been golfing
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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08-10-2020, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
You believe in Trump and Trumpism. We believe in decency, democracy, the rule of law, national unity, competence, science, medicine, expert advice, vital American institutions and the Constitution. Oh and you believe in Ghislane Maxwell. Forgot.
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good summary but you forgot empathy and compassion.
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08-10-2020, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
good summary but you forgot empathy and compassion.
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Can't bother with that... He is too busy working on healthcare...
President Donald Trump said he plans to approve a healthcare plan "within two weeks," in an interview that aired July 19 on "Fox News Sunday."
He must have meant two months, right? He's only had 3.5 years....
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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08-10-2020, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
Can't bother with that... He is too busy working on healthcare...
President Donald Trump said he plans to approve a healthcare plan "within two weeks," in an interview that aired July 19 on "Fox News Sunday."
He must have meant two months, right? He's only had 3.5 years....
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What part of Article 2 says that he should enforce empathy and compassion? Or to work on healthcare? You and Paul, like Pete, want an autocrat President?
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08-10-2020, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
What part of Article 2 says that he should enforce empathy and compassion? Or to work on healthcare? You and Paul, like Pete, want an autocrat President?
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Tweety said he was working on healthcare, probably he will be as successful as he was with his wall which other countries have now effectively created to keep Americans out.
The Canadians in particular have stopped the caravans of Americans.
When he’s done you will likely have gotten your healthcare wish as he will have destroyed what little system we have.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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08-10-2020, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Tweety said he was working on healthcare, probably he will be as successful as he was with his wall which other countries have now effectively created to keep Americans out.
The Canadians in particular have stopped the caravans of Americans.
When he’s done you will likely have gotten your healthcare wish as he will have destroyed what little system we have.
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So we have a little health care system and Trump is going to destroy it. How come the Dems have not sued him in the Courts for doing this? How has he even had the power to destroy our health system? How have we come to this point in our history that a President can destroy the country's various health systems? How has he gotten such power? Not in Article 2. Have we not been following the Constitution? Has the Progressive erosion of our constitutional system created a Presidency that has the power to shut down all the health systems, private and public, that we have in this country?
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08-10-2020, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
You believe in Trump and Trumpism. We believe in decency, democracy, the rule of law, national unity, competence, science, medicine, expert advice, vital American institutions and the Constitution. Oh and you believe in Ghislane Maxwell. Forgot.
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democrats believe in democracy. the side that started trying to undo a fair election on day one, and never stopped, that’s the side that believes in democracy.
the side that encourages violent anarchists, they believe in democracy.
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