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12-01-2019, 07:33 PM
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Now DT is having Russia join a cyber security team. What could go wrong? Everything. Or more meddling in the 2020 elections.
Putin’s Puppet
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12-02-2019, 07:40 AM
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Trump does more vile things than Hillary or anyone does in a year and yet you are the one bending over backwards to defend him by trying to make a comparison where there is none. The Repub. bought into conspiracy theories (as they seem to be doing now w/UKR re. election interference and as they always seem to do) to try to blame Hillary for Benghazi.
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12-02-2019, 07:48 AM
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i know you are but what am i...... 
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12-02-2019, 08:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
the vast majority of my comments about Trump deal with his character or lack of character more than his politics which I certainly disagree with a lot of. Clinton and Benghazi was a made-up issue in which a tragedy was politicized. Again, all of the Democrats and all of the Republicans who ran for president had far better character that who the Republicans ultimately elected.
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Some of Benghazi was made up and some was beaten to death, but a sizeable majority of issues (the Video, Stand Down, consistent bad decision making at State, MISSING EMAILS FFS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT ON GOVERNMENT SYSTEMS) did exist.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
you attacked Trump ( fairly) for insulting people, but said it’s not as bad when hilary went on national tv and slut-shamed her husbands victims.
you said it was a fabricated controversy, that hilary blamed a video ( therefore blaming an american citizen who made the video) for the benghazi attack.
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It is all a mess and it better get fixed soon or I fear this experiment is done.
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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12-02-2019, 08:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Some of Benghazi was made up and some was beaten to death, but a sizeable majority of issues (the Video, Stand Down, consistent bad decision making at State, MISSING EMAILS FFS BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT ON GOVERNMENT SYSTEMS) did exist.
It is all a mess and it better get fixed soon or I fear this experiment is done.
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he’s probably going to get re elected, so there will
be more temper tantrums. the threats to the experiment are deeper than trump I’m afraid. the entire media is working for one political party, we are weakening the family which is the bedrock
of everything...
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12-02-2019, 08:26 AM
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more protests and funny hats.....
i wonder if pete will ever run out of gas.....
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12-02-2019, 08:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
Trump does more vile things than Hillary or anyone does in a year and yet you are the one bending over backwards to defend him by trying to make a comparison where there is none. The Repub. bought into conspiracy theories (as they seem to be doing now w/UKR re. election interference and as they always seem to do) to try to blame Hillary for Benghazi.
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i don’t bend over backwards to defend trump, not ever. he’s a morally bankrupt reptile and i never would have voted for him
in a primary. but i believe his policies are far better for the nation than hilary’s would
have been, and that’s more important. she’s also no slouch in the corruption department.
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12-02-2019, 08:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulS
Trump does more vile things than Hillary or anyone does in a year and yet you are the one bending over backwards to defend him by trying to make a comparison where there is none. The Repub. bought into conspiracy theories (as they seem to be doing now w/UKR re. election interference and as they always seem to do) to try to blame Hillary for Benghazi.
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i don’t blame hilary for benghazi ( though she owns the decision to reject the ambassadors repeated requests for
more security). i blame her for the way she reacted to benghazi, by throwing an american citizen under the bus. who else should
i blame for her actions? Did Trump force her to do that, with a Jedi mind trick?
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12-02-2019, 08:44 AM
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🍑💩🤡
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12-02-2019, 08:56 AM
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I still haven't heard a convincing argument on why he should be re elected. Caracter isn't a quality the Right wants nor is honesty or competency or a stable foreign or domestic policy the deficit isn't a concern faith he has none . The economy and jobs ( hes done nothing. Structurally no infrastructure) its a sad reason to vote for Trump because Dems hate him and ingnore the rest.. and thats putting America 1st ..
LOL
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12-02-2019, 09:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
I still haven't heard a convincing argument on why he should be re elected. Caracter isn't a quality the Right wants nor is honesty or competency or a stable foreign or domestic policy the deficit isn't a concern faith he has none . The economy and jobs ( hes done nothing. Structurally no infrastructure) its a sad reason to vote for Trump because Dems hate him and ingnore the rest.. and thats putting America 1st ..
LOL
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All that the Dems need to unseat him is a competent candidate. If anybody on the left is aware of such then they are doing a great job of hiding it.
LOL
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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12-02-2019, 09:41 AM
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no kidding, right...?..if he's as bad as the mentally damaged contend, this should be the easiest democrap victory in the history of democrap victories
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12-02-2019, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
All that the Dems need to unseat him is a competent candidate. If anybody on the left is aware of such then they are doing a great job of hiding it.
LOL
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thanks for making my point 
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12-02-2019, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
thanks for making my point 
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Your point was that Rs are voting for Trump to spite flakes. The reality is that they are voting for the best candidate. Sorry if that hurts your feelings but wtf.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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12-02-2019, 01:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
I still haven't heard a convincing argument on why he should be re elected. Caracter isn't a quality the Right wants nor is honesty or competency or a stable foreign or domestic policy the deficit isn't a concern faith he has none . The economy and jobs ( hes done nothing. Structurally no infrastructure) its a sad reason to vote for Trump because Dems hate him and ingnore the rest.. and thats putting America 1st ..
LOL
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get your fingers out of your ears and listen. the economy is roaring, the right loves the judges he is appointing, he’s taking the fight to jihadists.
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12-02-2019, 02:19 PM
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I think he damages our national security, has made world leaders very leery of making any deals with someone who doesn't respect them, he is absolutely the last thing we need on environmental issues, he inherited a strong economy and has put farmers in the pour house, manufacturing is down and hey HOW ABOUT THAT BUDGET. This budget issue isn't partisan, both parties better address it soon.
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12-03-2019, 02:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Stripers
I think he damages our national security, has made world leaders very leery of making any deals with someone who doesn't respect them, he is absolutely the last thing we need on environmental issues, he inherited a strong economy and has put farmers in the pour house, manufacturing is down and hey HOW ABOUT THAT BUDGET. This budget issue isn't partisan, both parties better address it soon.
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fake opinion news
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12-02-2019, 03:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
get your fingers out of your ears and listen. the economy is roaring, the right loves the judges he is appointing, he’s taking the fight to jihadists.
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The economy hes done nothing
Judges again he has done nothing.. the Senate has
Taking the fight to jihadist.. your clueless on this topic. This hasn't changed since 911
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12-02-2019, 03:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
The economy hes done nothing
Judges again he has done nothing.. the Senate has
Taking the fight to jihadist.. your clueless on this topic. This hasn't changed since 911
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“the economy has done nothing”.
lowest black unemployment ever, highest black median income ever, is nothing? Nah, you’re
not partisan.
The president nominates judges, the senate votes to confirm. The senate can only vote on judges nominated by the president.
Take a civics class and stop embarrassing yourself.
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12-02-2019, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
“the economy has done nothing”.
lowest black unemployment ever, highest black median income ever, is nothing? Nah, you’re
not partisan.
The president nominates judges, the senate votes to confirm. The senate can only vote on judges nominated by the president.
Take a civics class and stop embarrassing yourself.
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Talk about embarrassing its amazing how tone death you are to reality
you dont even understand how the senate works? this is beyond civics maybe Republicans need a lesson.. Ask Obama how much being POTUS helped him filli judges
Senate obstructionism handed a raft of judicial vacancies to Trump
the 114th Senate contributed to the contentiousness and polarization of the once semi-ministerial task of confirming judge. There is no reason to expect the process to get any better. We are reaching the point that confirmations stop unless the same party controls the White House and Senate.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgo...cies-to-trump/
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12-02-2019, 03:40 PM
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 as crazy as schifs eyeballs
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12-02-2019, 03:44 PM
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imagine how great things would be if trump didn't have the dems and the media and re-pete hounding him every second of every day 
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12-02-2019, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
 as crazy as schifs eyeballs
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it’s deranged, un-glued gibberish.
the left is doing everything they can, to get him re-elected. And they don’t see it. They think the way to beat him, is to nominate someone that makes Obama
look like a centrist. They think Hilary lost because she wasn’t nearly liberal ( i.e., polarizing) enough...how does one arrive at that conclusion?
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12-02-2019, 07:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
The economy hes done nothing
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Black Friday saw huge online sales, as did Small Business Saturday.
People have money, and they’re not afraid to spend it. You hate that, don’t you?
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12-02-2019, 08:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Black Friday saw huge online sales, as did Small Business Saturday.
People have money, and they’re not afraid to spend it. You hate that, don’t you?
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again your a kool aid drinker just because you get on a bike that's already moving you somehow think Trump get 100% credit for starting the bike rolling hes done some pedaling but mostly coasting ,btu:
Black friday sales have been rising except 2008 but you think its because of Trump LOL sure it is I live in reality not Trumps reality the 1st number is individual spending 20-40 dollars some years 2-5 in others WOW
2005 $734.69 $496.2 billion 6.2%
2006 $750.70 $512.6 billion 3.2%
2007 $755.13 $525.9 billion 2.7%
2008 $694.19 $501.7 billion -4.6%
2009 $681.83 $503.2 billion 0.2%
2010 $718.98 $529.4 billion 5.2%
2011 $740.57 $553.8 billion 4.6%
2012 $752.24 $568.7 billion 2.6%
2013 $767.24 $584.1 billion 2.9%
2014 $802.45 $608.0 billion 5.0%
2015 $805.65 $626.1 billion 3.2%
2016 $935.58 $655.8 billion 3.6%
2017 $967.13 $682.0 billion 4.0%
2018 $1,007.24 $717.5 billion 4.3%
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12-02-2019, 09:22 PM
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More gibberish
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12-02-2019, 09:24 PM
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More gibberish
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Facts tend to get that response alot around here 
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12-03-2019, 07:43 AM
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He simply can’t help but spin. These Dems are a dishonest lot.
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12-03-2019, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
He simply can’t help but spin. These Dems are a dishonest lot.
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it goes way beyond dishonesty. I have my political biases, most of us do. These people are, literally, delusional. The economy has done nothing? Trump doesn’t select federal judges, the senate does?
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12-03-2019, 08:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
it goes way beyond dishonesty. I have my political biases, most of us do. These people are, literally, delusional. The economy has done nothing? Trump doesn’t select federal judges, the senate does?
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While Trump selects judges the Senate played a big role in the number of choices he has and played other games.
Things changed after the 2014 elections, when Republicans won back the chamber and virtually halted processing Obama’s court nominees. At the end of Obama’s term, in 2017, there were 17 circuit court vacancies, with seven nominees pending, and 86 district court vacancies, with 44 nominees pending.
Having so many vacancies to fill gave Republican Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and the White House more opportunities to pump up Trump’s confirmation rate in his first two years.
In 2017, McConnell went further than Reid in instituting another partisan rule change. This one did away with the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees, ensuring Neil M. Gorsuch would be confirmed — and Brett M. Kavanaugh a year later. And this year he limited the number of hours of post-cloture debate on district court nominees, a move that further greases the skids for more confirmations.
Another change in Senate operations during Trump’s presidency has been the weakening of the “blue slip” process, which allowed home-state senators to essentially sink a nomination if they did not signal their support. Obama and previous presidents were loath to choose nominees who would not pass muster with home-state senators.
McConnell has said that Democratic opposition won’t slow Trump nominees, a sentiment echoed by Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.
Georgetown’s Rom doesn’t expect doing away with the blue slip process to make a huge difference, but he said it will “allow the majority of the Senate to approve judges more quickly.”
“They’re going to try to put as many judges through that process as possible … and being able to ignore the home-state senators gives them a little bit of an edge,” he said.
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