is it impeachable to ask ukraine to investigate political adversaries?

[Pete F.]

Remember this
"You don't even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role because impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor in integrity to the office you don't even have to be convicted of a crime. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office."
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Remember this
"You don't even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role because impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor in integrity to the office you don't even have to be convicted of a crime. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office."

Is this some Progressive interpretation? The Constitution specifies high crimes and misdemeanors. Honor and integrity may well be needed to make our constitutional republic function as it should. But those are subject to the eyes of the beholder.

On the other hand, subjecting the Constitution merely to the eye of the beholder lacks the honor and integrity required to appropriate any meaning to it at all. If it is subject merely to opinion, it is worthless other than a document that permits any slight of hand the beholder employs in order to fool the rest of us.

The Constitution specifies high crimes and misdemeanors in order to impeach. It does not even suggest that accusations of lack of honor or integrity are enough. Suggesting so is dishonorable. It lacks integrity. It is a mischievous trick to falsely use the Constitution as any means to impeach.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Is this some Progressive interpretation? The Constitution specifies high crimes and misdemeanors. Honor and integrity may well be needed to make our constitutional republic function as it should. But those are subject to the eyes of the beholder.

On the other hand, subjecting the Constitution merely to the eye of the beholder lacks the honor and integrity required to appropriate any meaning to it at all. If it is subject merely to opinion, it is worthless other than a document that permits any slight of hand the beholder employs in order to fool the rest of us.

The Constitution specifies high crimes and misdemeanors in order to impeach. It does not even suggest that accusations of lack of honor or integrity are enough. Suggesting so is dishonorable. It lacks integrity. It is a mischievous trick to falsely use the Constitution as any means to impeach.

It’s a quote from Lindsey Graham in 1999.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

It’s a quote from Lindsey Graham in 1999.

Is that supposed to make it golden? Lindsey Graham has said a lot of chit in the past. I don't think you particularly like what he has been saying lately. And I don't know the full context of what he was saying. But, as for the snippet you posted, standing alone without further context, the quote amounts to BS. That you give it any credence, for me, just reflects the hypothetical, insinuatory and inflammatory stuff you constantly pedal. And, for me, it lacks sincerity. Are you going to give credence to all the rest of what Graham is saying about the whistleblower stuff, or the collusion stuff, or his praise of Trump's efforts and policies? And BTW Graham, when he was buddy, buddy with McCain, both were semi-Progressives. He seems to have stiffened his "conservative" back lately. Real or not? Maybe depends on which way the wind blows. Lindsey Graham is a consummate politician .

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Is that supposed to make it golden? Lindsey Graham has said a lot of chit in the past. I don't think you particularly like what he has been saying lately. And I don't know the full context of what he was saying. But, as for the snippet you posted, standing alone without further context, the quote amounts to BS. That you give it any credence, for me, just reflects the hypothetical, insinuatory and inflammatory stuff you constantly pedal. And, for me, it lacks sincerity. Are you going to give credence to all the rest of what Graham is saying about the whistleblower stuff, or the collusion stuff, or his praise of Trump's efforts and policies? And BTW Graham, when he was buddy, buddy with McCain, both were semi-Progressives. He seems to have stiffened his "conservative" back lately. Real or not? Maybe depends on which way the wind blows. Lindsey Graham is a consummate politician .

One of the many speeches he gave during the Clinton impeachment, which occurred after a witch-hunt that lasted for years and found a blow job.

I think he’s quite a typical Trumplican, willingly accepting Trump’s lies as truth.


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