WH projects $1 trillion deficit for 2019

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

No.
A large portion of our understanding is based on direct measurements compared against the instrumental record and against the geological record, including things like ice cores. I am a field scientist, I am inherently skeptical of models, but when models have the ability to align well with observations (see Stephan rahmasdorf’s 2007 paper on sea level rise) using data not used to make the model, I take notice.

This (below) is a nice explanation of how climate models work, particularly about how the point of the models is to show the trends and not make a prediction of a date/time/magnitude. But you know all this, we have been around and around on this before. The whole political forum is a circle jerk of the two sides just aiming at each other same #^&#^&#^&#^&. Boring.....

https://youtu.be/3v9aRQpumPA
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I need to remind you, they can’t hear you with their heads in the sand. Even that excellent and clear video explanation won’t be believed, but when that point of no return hits their children or their children’s kids smack dab in the face, they won’t hear the crying from six feet under.
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

I need to remind you, they can’t hear you with their heads in the sand.
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That doesn’t really help either Bob... 😁

I look at it this way. My modeling colleagues use various models to predict beach erosion in a storm. Now as the guy that measures the changes in morphology and processes during the storm, I tend to not agree with the predictions, of exactly how much, how fast and where the sand will move around.

However, when three or more of their models, using different assumptions and past data to train the model, all show erosion of a value pretty close to the measured, but off by a bit, it isn’t fair to just dismiss the models outright.

It is a real issue. I think it is incredible hubris to look at the planet right now, and think we haven’t had an impact. burning fossil fuels has altered the chemistry of the atmosphere in a way that traps more outgoing solar radiation and warms the planet. We need to be proactive and start thinking more about it. I wish they were wrong, particularly on sea level rise, but it just doesn’t seem to be the case.....
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Your correct you and others were crying about deficts. And now your not. Again turning wine into water ...
Its a predictable pattern
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I know I have started 10 threads over the past 8 years in this specific forum (and earlier but only the last 8 years are indexed). Ohhh, and most recent was in May, 2019. That recent enough for ya?

Originally Posted by wdmso

Yep everything equal keep convincing yourself its that simple
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It is that simple . Both sides do stupid sh!t, both sides do good sh!t, 'cept maybe the Squad.

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

I need to remind you, they can’t hear you with their heads in the sand.
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I really wish we could all get along, but the other side just won't see things my way ; ) (/sarc)

On a side note, 5 years ago on the Seahorse going over to Cutty, PaulS and I figured we could fix 90% of the problems facing this country simply by working together.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I know I have started 10 threads over the past 8 years in this specific forum (and earlier but only the last 8 years are indexed). Ohhh, and most recent was in May, 2019. That recent enough for ya?
That response was directed at Jim and his current lack of outrage over Trump current deficits.. no you


It is that simple . Both sides do stupid sh!t, both sides do good sh!t, 'cept maybe the Squad.

Of course both sides do stupid stuff i dont see that cliche as helpful. Seeing it ignores the why is it happening

Originally Posted by JohnR

I really wish we could all get along, but the other side just won't see things my way ; ) (/sarc)

On a side note, 5 years ago on the Seahorse going over to Cutty, PaulS and I figured we could fix 90% of the problems facing this country simply by working together.

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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I know I have started 10 threads over the past 8 years in this specific forum (and earlier but only the last 8 years are indexed). Ohhh, and most recent was in May, 2019. That recent enough for ya?
That response was directed at Jim and his current lack of outrage over Trump current deficits.. no you


It is that simple . Both sides do stupid sh!t, both sides do good sh!t, 'cept maybe the Squad.

Of course both sides do stupid stuff i dont see that cliche as helpful. I feel it ignores the why

Originally Posted by JohnR

I really wish we could all get along, but the other side just won't see things my way ; ) (/sarc)

Me too however the Potus and his people and some supporters take any criticism of policy or Trump and twisted it into Anti Americanism protected at elected an regular citizen .. thats a hard pill for we to take

Originally Posted by JohnR

On a side note, 5 years ago on the Seahorse going over to Cutty, PaulS and I figured we could fix 90% of the problems facing this country simply by working together.

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