media not having a great weekend

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Want to take a guess what color most of my trouble comes from, whether it’s yelling, swearing in front of the neighborhood kids, throwing their empty beer cans and trash in our yards or peeing in plain sight? Yeah you guessed it white young adults with no respect. One black familiy we have actually given permission to park in our driveway after having a pleasant respectful conversation when they asked where they could legally park and the same is true for another family we think might be Hispanic or Brazilian. I’d say 99% of all the trouble is with young white males.
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This couldn't be because Plymouth and surrounding towns are predominantly White, It's gotta be because White people are the problem.

Plymouth - The racial makeup of the town was 93.8% White, 2.0% Black or African American (congratulations, you are the most diverse town)

Kingston - The racial makeup of the town was 97.3% white, 0.1% Black or African American

Carver - The racial makeup of the town was 95.78% White, 1.22% African American

Sandwich - The racial makeup of the town was 97.75% White, 0.38% African American

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

This couldn't be because Plymouth and surrounding towns are predominantly White, It's gotta be because White people are the problem.

Plymouth - The racial makeup of the town was 93.8% White, 2.0% Black or African American (congratulations, you are the most diverse town)

Kingston - The racial makeup of the town was 97.3% white, 0.1% Black or African American

Carver - The racial makeup of the town was 95.78% White, 1.22% African American

Sandwich - The racial makeup of the town was 97.75% White, 0.38% African American

Do you live on the street, no you don’t and I can tell you for a fact, those numbers aren’t what I see for people of color. In fact there aren’t many public beaches where these minority’s are coming from, I think the black family is from Brockton and the other from Taunton, but feel free to quote stats that mean nothing. So should six flags or the local water parks be exactly a match for the town make up, what a stupid argument that one is.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Do you live on the street, no you don’t and I can tell you for a fact, those numbers aren’t what I see for people of color. In fact there aren’t many public beaches where these minority’s are coming from, I think the black family is from Brockton and the other from Taunton, but feel free to quote stats that mean nothing. So should six flags or the local water parks be exactly a match for the town make up, what a stupid argument that one is.
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You made the claim that white people are the problem, I'm just showing you that the reason for that is probably that a vast majority of people from your town and surrounding towns are white, so your chances that the A-holes you'll have to deal with will be white is greatly increased.

But I'm glad you met a couple of Black families that go there, that totally blows a hole in my theory that out of the 100,000 white folks surrounding the beach, that your chances of a few of them being A-holes, is just a stupid argument

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You made the claim that white people are the problem, I'm just showing you that the reason for that is probably that a vast majority of people from your town and surrounding towns are white, so your chances that the A-holes you'll have to deal with will be white is greatly increased.

But I'm glad you met a couple of Black families that go there, that totally blows a hole in my theory that out of the 100,000 white folks surrounding the beach, that your chances of a few of them being A-holes, is just a stupid argument

See there you go spouting an argument based on a local dynamic you just don't understand, probably only 20% of those on this public beach on the weekend are even Plymouth residents or adjoining communities. Kind of like Trump spouting theories about illegal aliens and the percentages of criminals included in the mix or drugs coming over the southern border, the shear ignorance of the local dynamics means you really can't make certain arguments, at least not to those people who do have the facts.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

See there you go spouting an argument based on a local dynamic you just don't understand, probably only 20% of those on this public beach on the weekend are even Plymouth residents or adjoining communities. Kind of like Trump spouting theories about illegal aliens and the percentages of criminals included in the mix or drugs coming over the southern border, the shear ignorance of the local dynamics means you really can't make certain arguments, at least not to those people who do have the facts.

How about you actually put up some facts, you say probably 20% are residents. Probably is not a fact. Did you poll every person that uses the beach every weekend? Do you personally know all 100,000 people from Plymouth and the surrounding communities? Do you have a single piece of tangible evidence that dis-proves what I'm saying and validates what you're saying?

At least I posted some actual facts on the demographics, to back up what I'm saying.

Keep spouting off about race, be part of the problem instead of the solution. You are no better that the POTUS.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

How about you actually put up some facts, you say probably 20% are residents. Probably is not a fact. Did you poll every person that uses the beach every weekend? Do you personally know all 100,000 people from Plymouth and the surrounding communities? Do you have a single piece of tangible evidence that dis-proves what I'm saying and validates what you're saying?

At least I posted some actual facts on the demographics, to back up what I'm saying.

Keep spouting off about race, be part of the problem instead of the solution. You are no better that the POTUS.

Actually yes we did, Peg was commissioned by the town and spent two weekends with a clicker counting and polling, so there goes that retort. The town used that data to throw out the idea of building rest rooms on the beach, based on numbers and local. They threw up some portable potties instead, but we have a pretty good idea of the usage, she's been here 35 years and I'm in it for over ten, but I suspect that because you can go on a website and get the % of white in the surrounding communities you know the answer to why all the confrontations are with white males or their loud mouth girl friends; you don't know jack sh*t about this dynamic.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Actually yes we did, Peg was commissioned by the town and spent two weekends with a clicker counting and polling, so there goes that retort. The town used that data to throw out the idea of building rest rooms on the beach, based on numbers and local. They threw up some portable potties instead, but we have a pretty good idea of the usage, she's been here 35 years and I'm in it for over ten, but I suspect that because you can go on a website and get the % of white in the surrounding communities you know the answer to why all the confrontations are with white males or their loud mouth girl friends; you don't know jack sh*t about this dynamic.

Ooooohh two weekends with a clicker, did she keep track of percentages of white vs Minorities? How did she know they were not from the surrounding communities? Where are the numbers? You were the one spouting about having facts, so let me see them. So far I’ve seen none.

Are these A-holes you speak of a-holes because they are white or because their parents raised little A-holes? I’d like to believe it’s the latter.

Claiming someone is an A-hole based on the color of their skin is pretty racist you know
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

This couldn't be because Plymouth and surrounding towns are predominantly White, It's gotta be because White people are the problem.

Plymouth - The racial makeup of the town was 93.8% White, 2.0% Black or African American (congratulations, you are the most diverse town)

Kingston - The racial makeup of the town was 97.3% white, 0.1% Black or African American

Carver - The racial makeup of the town was 95.78% White, 1.22% African American

Sandwich - The racial makeup of the town was 97.75% White, 0.38% African American

Nope, you're right, it's because white people s*ck. MSNBC said so.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Nope, you're right, it's because white people s*ck. MSNBC said so.

You two are talking out your arses, without one bit of local knowledge of my situation, just so typical. My experiences for over a decade PROVE that I’ve had dozens of run ins with drunken white males and surprisingly the same number with white girls friends gone wild, but NOT one bad experience with people of color. Did I get that from MSNBC no, did I read it on CNN no, it’s my life experience over a decade of interaction with hundreds every weekend of a diverse sampling of primarily young adults.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

You two are talking out your arses, without one bit of local knowledge of my situation, just so typical. My experiences for over a decade PROVE that I’ve had dozens of run ins with drunken white males and surprisingly the same number with white girls friends gone wild, but NOT one bad experience with people of color. Did I get that from MSNBC no, did I read it on CNN no, it’s my life experience over a decade of interaction with hundreds every weekend of a diverse sampling of primarily young adults.
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No, you are talking out of your arse. Your personal observations don't say ANYTHING about teenagers in KY. If you saw whites behaving badly, boo rah for you. That doesn't mean these kids in KY did anything wrong.

"but NOT one bad experience with people of color."

Again, good for you. Does that mean the blacks harassing children on the video, are not responsible for their actions?

GS, I went to Chicago last month for work. I didn't get shot, I didn't see anyone else get shot., and I didn't shoot anyone. Using your logic, does that mean Chicago doesn't have a problem with gun violence? That people who say it does, are wrong? See how stupid that sounds?

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

No, you are talking out of your arse. Your personal observations don't say ANYTHING about teenagers in KY. If you saw whites behaving badly, boo rah for you. That doesn't mean these kids in KY did anything wrong.

"but NOT one bad experience with people of color."

Again, good for you. Does that mean the blacks harassing children on the video, are not responsible for their actions?

GS, I went to Chicago last month for work. I didn't get shot, I didn't see anyone else get shot., and I didn't shoot anyone. Using your logic, does that mean Chicago doesn't have a problem with gun violence? That people who say it does, are wrong? See how stupid that sounds?

Did I say it relates to those teens, please quote me where I said that, please don't put words in my mouth. Just relating a story, that from my experiences locally, people of color seem to display respect, while the white youth seem to be anything but respectful. Gee wiz I got off the rambling every moving target these threads always seem to have, sorry boss I'll stay on point next time.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Did I say it relates to those teens, please quote me where I said that, please don't put words in my mouth. Just relating a story, that from my experiences locally, people of color seem to display respect, while the white youth seem to be anything but respectful. Gee wiz I got off the rambling every moving target these threads always seem to have, sorry boss I'll stay on point next time.

so what was the point? i haven’t heard anyone say that whites are always innocent, and blacks are always guilty. but in this case, we have videotape which shows that’s the case. i don’t get why there’s debate here. we know what happened. just because some don’t happen to like themoutcome, means we have to cloud the facts?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so what was the point? i haven’t heard anyone say that whites are always innocent, and blacks are always guilty. but in this case, we have videotape which shows that’s the case. i don’t get why there’s debate here. we know what happened. just because some don’t happen to like themoutcome, means we have to cloud the facts?
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Glad to hear you got that white, it's certainly not cloudy in your mind.

I can find almost any interpretation someone would like of what happened there and each claims to be true, pick your flavor, I see you chose vanilla, I'll go for Neapolitan.

Just in case that's too deep for you, Neapolitan is vanilla, chocolate and strawberry, since as usual there some truth to all sides in a story.