alternative to wall

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

This article appeared on the Washington Examiner on May 15, 2018.
The Trump administration is in the process of writing new regulations to guarantee that certain immigrants won’t consume too many welfare or entitlement benefits. The welfare state is certainly a problem, but it’s a home-grown one, not an imported one. Welfare’s benefits are too large and too many people receive them. But the Trump administration should not blame this problem on immigrants.

I don't recall the Trump administration blaming immigrants for our welfare benefits being too large.

In fact, immigrants use fewer welfare and entitlement benefits in than native-born Americans.

Congress should pass a simple law that makes all people ineligible to receive welfare and entitlement programs until they become U.S. citizens.

But then they too will become the same welfare guzzlers that native born Americans are. And as Jim pointed out, their children, that they produce at much higher rates than native born Americans will be native born so the number of welfare guzzlers will eventually go up dramatically at higher rates thanks to the immigrants.

Building expensive walls around the country, cutting legal immigration, or putting more faith in government technology to stop illegal immigration are fool’s errands. Reducing immigrant access to welfare and cutting the size of benefits are, by contrast, achievable and popular policies.

So "comprehensive immigration reform" is a fool's errand. Good to know. Oh, and cutting the size of benefits, I don't think you can get past the Dems on that without a huge fight--probably not an achievable or popular policy.

The good news is that even without a higher wall around the welfare state, immigrants are a welfare bargain compared to native-born Americans.

Actually, the Dems have a decent plan about that "good news". Put everybody on free birth control, abortion, promote genders which won't produce children, and so decrease the number of native-born Americans and allow massive immigration, legal or not, to replace the disappearing Americans. Voila! . . . the cost of the welfare state will go down because immigrants use welfare less at a less costly rate. Oh, but . . . darn. They produce children at a higher rate so, in spite of getting rid of most of the "native born," the population will grow dramatically with new "native borns."

Sounds rather hopeless.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Actually, the Dems have a decent plan about that "good news". Put everybody on free birth control, abortion, promote genders which won't produce children, and so decrease the number of native-born Americans and allow massive immigration, legal or not, to replace the disappearing Americans. Voila! . . . the cost of the welfare state will go down because immigrants use welfare less at a less costly rate. Oh, but . . . darn. They produce children at a higher rate so, in spite of getting rid of most of the "native born," the population will grow dramatically with new "native borns."

Sounds rather hopeless.

You actually think LGBTQ people don't have or raise children, that abortion is a significant population limiter, that birth control is the reason people choose not to have children.
You likely don't think that parental leave, child care, access to affordable healthcare, student loans are things that limit people's choices about having children. Just think in those evil socialized countries typical childbirth costs are half and less than the US.

Just what scares you about new "native borns", what generation American are you, that entitles you to close the door?