Promises made.......

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

So he was able to accomplish something that his predecessors could not get done. You,as is par for the course,fail to recognize that as something positive, despite the fact it heals the nation and certainly the families directly involved. No surprise here as you have an agenda to uphold. Party blind as usual.
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Bingo. Trump could save babies from a burning building (not that I'd expect that he'd do that), and they wouldn't give him credit. They can't, they just can't.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Bingo. Trump could save babies from a burning building (not that I'd expect that he'd do that), and they wouldn't give him credit. They can't, they just can't.

Poor Trumplicans, abused by everyone.
You reap, what you sow.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Poor Trumplicans, abused by everyone.
You reap, what you sow.
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Your conception of reaping is very narrow. We are reaping the fruits of the Progressive attack on the Constitution, as was warned many times. But the grab of power was far more important to them than any consequences to them and the rest of us. So now we are reaping unsustainable debt, identity politics, creation of dozens and a growing number of non-biological genders, unchecked federal power, weakening of the middle class, loss of individual rights, loss of local and state sovereignty as well as a direction of losing our nation's sovereignty to a world order, among several other things . . . including Donald Trump.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Your conception of reaping is very narrow. We are reaping the fruits of the Progressive attack on the Constitution, as was warned many times. But the grab of power was far more important to them than any consequences to them and the rest of us. So now we are reaping unsustainable debt, identity politics, creation of dozens and a growing number of non-biological genders, unchecked federal power, weakening of the middle class, loss of individual rights, loss of local and state sovereignty as well as a direction of losing our nation's sovereignty to a world order, among several other things . . . including Donald Trump.

What I think Jim was commenting on was Trumps treatment in or by the media.
Where did you get the Progressive tangent from in that?
I would claim that Trump is the result of failed neo-liberal policies, myself.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

What I think Jim was commenting on was Trumps treatment in or by the media.
Where did you get the Progressive tangent from in that?

When you said (or implied--hard to get definitive about vague comments) that "Trumplicans" reap what they sow, I replied that your conception of reaping was very narrow (i.e. Trump and his treatment of and by the media). Trump is but a tail end of what we're reaping by the Progressive transformation of our system of government from a limited central government to a fairly unstoppable one. The "reaping" is much wider and deeper than Trump and his media squabbles.


I would claim that Trump is the result of failed neo-liberal policies, myself.

We do agree on that but not merely because of failed policies. Actually successful policies have also, and more so, changed this country in ways that led to the Trump "backlash." But that would require a real, in depth discussion, not back and forth, superficial, quips.

And the moniker "neo-liberal" does not deserve the "liberal" portion. Neo-authoritarian would be far more appropriate.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

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You reap, what you sow.
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HW Bush deserved to be called a wimp and an adulterer? McCain deserved to be called a senile old racist? Romney deserved to be called a sexist?

Trump is an example of YOU reaping what YOU sow.

He's not a victim. Maybe you hadn't heard, but he won the election.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

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You reap, what you sow.
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So how do you explain the fact that the GOP controls the white house, the senate, and a majority of state legislatures and governorships?

Is this your side, reaping what they sow? Or does that phrase only apply to the GOP when they lose, not to democrats?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So how do you explain the fact that the GOP controls the white house, the senate, and a majority of state legislatures and governorships?

Is this your side, reaping what they sow? Or does that phrase only apply to the GOP when they lose, not to democrats?

Sometimes you get lucky. Republicans received far less than half of the votes cast in the midterms. Demographics are looking down for the Trumplican base. It won't hold long term, fear-mongering and division is not a way to grow a party. But your feckless leader doesn't care, since he will no longer be in office.

It applies when Trump and Trumplicans complain about their mistreatment from the many Trump has abused since he started his campaign.
Trump has been calling the media fake, anytime he did not like their coverage, since he started his campaign. Yet he expects to have them celebrate his exaggerated accomplishments without ever questioning them. As I have said many times he already praises himself more than he deserves, the man gave himself a grade higher than A+.
If you honestly think that Trump has done anything to ensure the long term viability of the Republican party, you spend too much time watching right wing media. He serves his base and does nothing to expand it.
Just look how wonderful Stephen Miller did yesterday, he is one of the least empathetic people I have ever seen, I can't believe they let him loose to speak in public. He is a living caricature of "hatred corrodes the container it is carried in".

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Sometimes you get lucky. Republicans received far less than half of the votes cast in the midterms. Demographics are looking down for the Trumplican base. It won't hold long term, fear-mongering and division is not a way to grow a party. But your feckless leader doesn't care, since he will no longer be in office.

It applies when Trump and Trumplicans complain about their mistreatment from the many Trump has abused since he started his campaign.
Trump has been calling the media fake, anytime he did not like their coverage, since he started his campaign. Yet he expects to have them celebrate his exaggerated accomplishments without ever questioning them. As I have said many times he already praises himself more than he deserves, the man gave himself a grade higher than A+.
If you honestly think that Trump has done anything to ensure the long term viability of the Republican party, you spend too much time watching right wing media. He serves his base and does nothing to expand it.
Just look how wonderful Stephen Miller did yesterday, he is one of the least empathetic people I have ever seen, I can't believe they let him loose to speak in public. He is a living caricature of "hatred corrodes the container it is carried in".

i see! when your side wins, it’s just reaping what you sow. when my side wins, it’s not reaping what you sow, itsbthat ugly politics of division got lucky. in all those state races, in the senate seats that flipped for the gop, there’s no message there for you side, nope.

trump bashing also won’t work forever. democrats will need an agenda other than claiming that trump is genghis khan and that we need the dems to protect us from him.
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